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You make the call. Black or Mottled?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:29 pm
by Leak-Free
Pretty slow day for me and Quackfeind till this pair showed up. First thought black now not sure. Hybrid maybe? The drake is going on the wall regardless.

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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:31 pm
by Blackduck

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:34 am
by astorey
Looking like two black ducks to me.......... A good look at the wing would defenitely lock it in.

aubrey

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:38 am
by Leak-Free
I'll pull the hen carcus out of the freezer and get a few images of her secondaries. The closeup was in open shade and the "Feind" shot direct sun and the bird looks a lot darker there. I've studied it from every angle. Bright legs, whitish tail feathers, female orange & black bill, lack of internal markings, crisp light edges, white outline on speculum. On the mottled side the drake does have a clear yellow bill, chin appears unstreaked. So who knows?

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:46 am
by Leak-Free
The close-up only shows a hint of white boarder on the speculum but it is there. I didn't mess with him much (after he was shot at close range with 3" #2's) Ha! but I'll get a better image.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:36 am
by quakwacker
mottled duck.
I don't think it is dark enough to be a black duck.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:04 am
by duck warrior
where did you kill it?

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:26 am
by Bama Duck
Looks like mottled duck to me. I think the head/neck needs to be darker, see how it is significantly lighter than the rest of the duck. Could be wrong though...

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:32 am
by bamahunter
duck warrior wrote:where did you kill it?


I think the answer to this question would really help as if you killed it somewhere besides Florida or coastal Lousiana or TX then I wouldn't be questioning too much as it's probably a black.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:39 am
by nbkillr
Looks like a Mottled Duck to me.

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:43 am
by pntailhntr
I'd say a mallard hen AND a mottled duck. Hard to tell on the lighting. They do not appear to be dark enough to be a black duck though. The head is to light on the Mottled duck to be black duck.

Mottled with the Yellow bill, Mallard Hen with the orange/black bill

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:44 am
by pntailhntr
OH, and I would DEFINITELY say WOOD DUCK!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:44 am
by weimhunter
Looks like a black duck to me. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:55 am
by mudsucker
:shock: You shot the HENS? :cry:

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:56 am
by pntailhntr
Never Mind, NOT a mallard hen, no white bars on the speculum. I do not believe it is dark enough for a black though. We need wing shots of both birds. From that angle the orange/black bill could be a Gadwall hen