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Blood training your lab
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:12 pm
by FnW man
I've got some deer blood left in my refrig from last deer season, and although it smells somewhat different

, I need to know if it's still good for training my dog. Is the principle the same, or is fresh blood really necessary??

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:25 pm
by Dutch Dog
Utilizing harvested deer blood for the purpose of dog training is considered wanton waste.

WATCH OUT ...WHAT YOU WISH FOR....>>>>>
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:15 pm
by walt333ms
HAD A GREAT LAB 14 YEARS...
TRAINED HIM TO TRACK DEAR ALSO WHEN HE WAS YOUNG......MISTAKE
HE DID GREAT.....WOULD TRAIL THEM FOREVER.....THAT WAS THE PROBLEM,,,.....
WHILE TRAILING A WOUNDED DEER DURING OCT MUZZLE LOADER....HE JUMPED THE DEER...HEADED SOUTH A MILE INTO MAHANNA.....
ABOUT 45 MINUTES LATER ...COULD SEE SOMETHING COMING FROM THE SOUTH....YEP...WOUNDED DEER WITH BLACK LAB RIGHT ON HIS TAIL...
I KEPT HOLLERING DONT SHOOT THE DOG....
TOOK ME FOREVER TO GET HIM BACK.....REMEMBER THE LAB NEVER
BARKS....SO VERY HARD TO FIND......
2ND..TIME....
WAY DOWN IN DELTA NATIONAL ....GREAT DUCK HUNT IN FLOODED OAK TIMBER.....RESTRICTED AREA SO WE HAD TO WADE IN KNEE DEEP WATER ABOUT 3/4 MILE.........ON THE WAY OUT BACK TO THE 3-WHEELERS....1992..."SAM" JUMPED A DEER ON A HIGH SPOT...OFF TO THE RACES HE WENT....COULD LISTEN AS MY DOG CHASED THE DEER EAST....OUT OF HEARING.......DARK COLD NIGHT ....I KEPT CALLING AND WHISTLE....OVER AN HOUR LATER HE CAME BACK.....
HIS CAMO VEST HAD GOTTEN HUNG UP ...AND SOME HOW HE TORE OUT OF IT.....
SO THE NEXT DAY...STARTED UN-TRAINING MYDEER DOG.....
IF HE DOES GOOD AT IT...KEEP HIM ON A ROPE.....
GOOD LUCK
UNCLE WALT
deer dog,
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:22 pm
by jdbuckshot
you dont have to use frozed blood, if your dog is a trailer, hes a trailer. just take them enough untill they realize what is going on, my sits on a whistle and quarters so i don't use a lead, she barks when she finds it most of the time. never had a problem with mixing duck hunting and deer trailing, some of the guys on here have seen pace. but my best advise would be to after you kill a deer, cut off the back leg, and do some trailing drills with it. i never drag the leg when training i just hit it on the ground every 50 or 75 yards, also use some gut with no blood. a rag, or a piece of hide works good. also just go and hide the "bait" and let it sit for about and hour, and come back and teach the dog to hunt it, or WIND it. thats priceless when you have a good winding dog.
i know the gut part is nasty, but you will thank me when your dog finds that 130 class gut shot deer that didnt bleed a drop! just ask my little brother!!!! good obedience pays off more than anything, take you plenty of water when you go hunting. if you see a dead deer on the side of the road stop and get you a leg off of it. i never let my dog have any piece of the deer to chew on. they need to want that deer more than anything else when its time to trail! good luck f&w
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:35 am
by FnW man
Thanks guys for the advise, but my question was about old blood in the refrig (not frozen) that doesn't smell like fresh blood anymore. Are the components of old blood and fresh blood still the same for the general purpose of dripping drops on the ground in a 100 yd line for training, or will old, different smelling blood confuse the dog when it comes time to trail a freshly shot deer
Maybe a blood trainer or doctor that hunts can help............maybe not.
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:04 am
by camlock
F&Wman wrote:Thanks guys for the advise, but my question was about old blood in the refrig (not frozen) that doesn't smell like fresh blood anymore. Are the components of old blood and fresh blood still the same for the general purpose of dripping drops on the ground in a 100 yd line for training, or will old, different smelling blood confuse the dog when it comes time to trail a freshly shot deer
Maybe a blood trainer or doctor that hunts can help............maybe not.
I've always heard to train in offseason with frozen blood...So I assume it works??? I am doing the same with my male...let me know how it turns out...
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:35 pm
by lilwhitelie
The problem with most labs is they tend to "wind hunt" instead of nose to the ground hunt so the blood doesn't do a whole lot of good!! They are excellent dogs for deer trailing though.... put em on the trail and they will make big loops until they get wind of em!@! Mine has saved me numerus times on bow shot deer!!!
labs
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:26 am
by BAY KINGFISHER
Labs they are winding dogs rather than nose to the ground, biggest thing is they only should know trailing deer blood or guts not deer the animal, also for a good chance the area should never be contaminated by boots, always let the dog look first, if there is a questionable hit, I have herd them little weiner dogs are making good trakers, Im probably going to a feist or rat terrier for my next tracker, I like their size and attitude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:35 am
by FnW man
thanks. That good info.

My dog is certainally a 'winder'. When I work him w/ my 6 mo. old, smelly deer blood I'll remember that
