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Postby tupe » Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:34 pm

Nope I am not the food editor. And I am from MS. But I live in LA now. Still hunt in MS most of the season.

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Postby SoftCall » Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:43 pm

MB - I admitted that the term terrorist was incorrect. Pardon my short term memory, but since the post was about a year ago, I somehow linked the word hijacker with terrorist and was incorrect. I am sure that many can understand the confusion due to the close relationship of the terms.

I do however maintain my opinion about wildfowler.com based on the paragraph from the email that I am referring to....and that is the reason for my strong comments about Waterfowler.com and the editor in my recent post - not the season framework. In fact, in our final exchange of emails, the editor and I agreed to disagree on the subject and he offered me a free copy of the then soon to be released issue of the magazine containing an article about a family duck club that had existed for 100 years in the MS Delta. No offense intended towards you, but I declined.

We can debate the frame work issue until the cows come home. I don’t claim to be an expert on the scientific aspect of the season frameworks. I want as many days in the field as possible so I can enjoy the maximum number of quality days in the blind – not to kill as many ducks as possible. I think that my recent comments about “Whistlin’ Wings” and the pintail slaughter back up my desire to protect waterfowl. The season has been set, maybe we can engage in the framework debate next summer. You can probably educate me more on the logic.

The excerpt from the waterfowler.com email that I am referring to is as follows:

"As to the choice of the word "hijacked." I believe the term is not only
appropriate but perfect when you consider that the letter from the
Mississippi delegation was sent on September 12th and is, as you point out, a direct attempt to, "if you don't get what you need - escalate the issue." Your statement is pretty much a quote from the hijackers handbook."
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Now - I may interpret this different than other folks but here is my take on it. Did wildfowler.com use the term terrorist...no - is it implied by the above paragraph? ABSOLUTELY. A hijacker is a terrorist-no question about it. Also remember the timing of the article.....last fall after the 9/11 attacks. According to the American Heritage Dictionary’ the definition of hijacker is – “someone who uses force to take over a vehicle (especially an airplane) in order to reach an alternative destination [syn: highjacker].” I stand by my opinion that this is an example of poor editorial judgment.

Additionally, in my letter I mentioned that the legislative system was used to communicate the needs of the voting public. Do I agree with the tactics used in DC to accomplish the objective? Not necessarily, but at the same time I don’t agree with a lot of politics. That’s why I would never be a politician. The issue was escalated by our elected officials at the request of some Mississippians in an attempt to give the desired outcome. Mr. Moline however stated the use of the term escalate was a quote from the hijackers handbook. Again – poor taste in their response.

I probably sounded harsh in my comments about waterfowler.com and if anyone thinks that I am attacking them and crediting them with statements that they didn’t make – it’s right there in black and white. I did however confuse the written terms “terrorist” and “hijacker”.

Also – I wasn’t trying to get the thread off base but I think it started with someone asking what our thoughts were about that site. So you have my thoughts.

I like DU, DeltaWaterfowl, and Trent Lott. I don’t agree with everything that they do but I support them all. Waterfowler.com is one site that I refuse to support.

Let’s agree to disagree. I am sure that you are an avid duck hunter with as much appreciation for the sport as anyone (if not more) and I appreciate and respect that.
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Postby tupe » Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:04 pm

You have a deal. I am glad that we can come to this point and still conduct ourselves like gentlemen.

I hope you have a great season and if you ever do want to see that article just let me know and I will feax you a copy of it. I was pround of it and I think you would enjoy it.

I am dog tired this evening, having just gotten in from fixing up a handful of blinds at a new place. Nice to get some resolution and know that we can all get along even when we disagree.

Take care, and here's to orange feet in your decoys!

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Postby mallardchaser » Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:07 pm

good posts soft call and mb waters.
Sorry for the misinformation I tried to pin on you, mb.
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Postby tupe » Sat Oct 19, 2002 8:15 pm

No problem. It's an easy mistake to make. After all he the food editor is my brother but if you every saw us together you would not likely get us confused a second time. :D

Night all, mucking out those pits has me just plain beat. But you know, standind there wrokin in the rain covered in mud with the sound and site of specs above you, ah well I'll take that kind of hard work any dau of the year.

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Postby Goat Roper » Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:04 pm

It is a rather boring site to me. I have found nothing there to impress me except my free Primos Madam duck call that I got for joining. Man that thing can do it high and low. Called Primos the other day for a new competition reed (I like it better than the other one that came with it - comes with 2 reeds) and found that they are discontinuing the Madam. Going to use the same reed however in a new call (Yo' Sista) and .......you guessed it......it will cost alot more (acrylic) Think I'll buy me another Madam while they are still around. Somebody has them on sale for $19.95...maybe Cabelas.
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Postby ducman77 » Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:05 pm

I drive a Z71 and shoot a Benelli so what does that mean GC.
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Postby Welldoggie » Wed Oct 23, 2002 3:32 pm

It means you drive a Z71 and shoot a Benelli. All guys that own a nice truck and shoot a nice gun arent hunter wannabe's with too much money.

It may mean that the wife didn't get that new furniture she wanted and your son's college fund is sitting out in the garage on the trailer...and that Honda will walk through just about any mudhole on the way to the duck hole, but that's beside the point.

...but, I'm not speaking from experience or anything 8)
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Postby Delta Duck » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:56 am

Yea GC, I drive a Z71 and shoot a SBE and a Super 90 :lol:


I will admit to being a wantabe duck hunter. I want to be duck hunting right now :)
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Postby GulfCoast » Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:00 am

Very good Delta Duck!
So many ducks, so little time....

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Postby Wantabe » Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:07 am

Yea GC
I have one of those Z71 and a couple of those real deal shotguns.


Do they still make other shotguns than the Benelli? :)
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Postby GulfCoast » Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:36 pm

Yep. And the "other" ones actually work......
So many ducks, so little time....

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Postby ducman77 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:39 pm

I have never had a problem in the past 5 years.
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Postby Greenhead22 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:33 pm

What do the initials SBE stand for? Oh, and it doesn't stand for Super Black Eagle. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby GulfCoast » Thu Oct 24, 2002 1:46 pm

They gypped me, twice. I thought that I was smarter than that.

Ever see the barrel of a Benelli stuck up in the mud quivering like a spear from the weld on the barrel ring breaking and the whole ball of wax coming flying off the gun......

I have.

At that exact moment, the owner was not really amused when I asked him "Tell me again why that thing is worth $1,200......."

Hee, Hee, Hee


Remember, but for Benelli quality control, there would be no http://www.surecycle.com :lol:
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