River is fixing to get serious, boys!!!

[dukluk]

COE just posted their revised predictions....and, it's STILL raining up north!!!

http://www.mvk.usace.army.mil/offices/e ... bullet.txt

[Wildfowler]

Anyone remember what AR City did the last time it was this high? That link it showing a crest of 46.

[novacaine]

Holy Moly.........look at Cairo!!!!!!!!! at 60 ft the Birds Point New Madrid spillway comes into play.
I don't think they blew the fuse plug in 1937 but they got reeeeeeaaaallll close!

[Double R 2]

Holy Moly.........look at Cairo!!!!!!!!! at 60 ft the Birds Point New Madrid spillway comes into play.
I don't think they blew the fuse plug in 1937 but they got reeeeeeaaaallll close!

Translation please.

[mille011]

Heard that if the rainfall prediction is right for the midwest, the crest at Greenville could be as high as 61. That would be 3 ft over the highest amount ever.

[the doctor]

Anyone remember what AR City did the last time it was this high? That link it showing a crest of 46.

2008 was about 45.5 at crest for AR City Guage...six inches of water on the porch at my cabin

the doc

[eSJay]

...Ten thousand River Commissions...cannot tame that lawless stream...
cannot say to it, "Go here," or "Go there," and make it obey.
-Mark Twain

[Double R 2]

So much for "speeding floodwater to the Gulf"

[dukluk]

Crank up those pumps in the lower delta!!!....oh, yeah, there ain't any.

[dukluk]

SCARY $#!+, RIGHT HERE !!!



THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER NEAR GREENVILLE.
* FROM TUESDAY MAY 03 UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
* AT 2:00 PM SATURDAY THE STAGE WAS 43.9 FEET.
* MAJOR FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 48.0 FEET.
* FORECAST...THE RIVER WILL RISE ABOVE FLOOD STAGE BY TUESDAY MAY 3RD
AND WILL CONTINUE TO RISE TO NEAR 57.5 FEET ON THE EVENING OF MAY 12TH.
* FLOOD HISTORY...THIS CREST COMPARES TO A PREVIOUS CREST OF 57.4 FEET
ON APR 16 2008. THIS CREST IS LOWER THAN THE CREST OF 58.2 FEET ON
MAY 12 1973. WITH ADDITIONAL RAINFALL EXPECTED...EXCEEDING THIS
CREST IS POSSIBLE.
* IMPACT...AT 58.0 FEET...WATER IS OVER 2 FEET DEEP IN FARMER`S GRAIN
TERMINAL BUILDING SOUTH OF GREENVILLE BRIDGE.
* IMPACT...AT 57.0 FEET...MORE OF HARBOR FRONT ROAD IS UNDER WATER AND
IS DEEPER AT THE SOUTH END.
* IMPACT...AT 56.5 FEET...SOUTH END OF THE HARBOR ROAD IS INUNDATED.
* IMPACT...AT 55.0 FEET...PRACTICALLY ALL AREAS BETWEEN LEVEES ARE
FLOODED. APPROXIMATELY 50 BUILDINGS HAVE WATER INSIDE THEM. WATER
ENTERS GRAIN TERMINAL BUILDING SOUTH OF GREENVILLE BRIDGE. ELECTRIC
POWER IS TURNED OFF TO LAKE FERGUSONAREA.
* IMPACT...AT 48.0 FEET...WATER BEGINS TO COVER THE DIRT ROAD LEADING
TO THE FARMERS GRAIN TERMINAL FACILITY SOUTH OF THE GREENVILLE
BRIDGE.
* IMPACT...AT 45.0 FEET...BOTTOMLAND NEAR RIVER IS FLOODED.
* IMPACT...AT 44.5 FEET...ROAD TO BUNGE CORPORATION GRAIN ELEVATORS IS
UNDER WATER.

&&

FLOOD OBSERVED FORECAST 6AM CREST
LOCATION STG STG DAY TIME SUN MON TUE CREST DAY TIME

LOWER MISSISSIPPI RIVER
GREENVILLE 48 43.9 SAT 02 PM 44.3 44.7 45.0 57.5 THU 5/12 PM

$$

[tgran00]

BIRDS POINT• Structure ID: N/A.
• Location: River Miles 889.2 To 952.0.
• River Elevation: 260 Feet to 285 Feet.
• Structure: Diversion Channel.
• Structure Type: Earthen.
• Length: 34 Miles.
• Width: 1,500 Feet To 11 Miles.
• Date Built: Authorized 1928.

The Mississippi and Ohio Rivers converge near the small town of Cairo, Illinois. Just below this confluence point, the river enters a section where its path is very straight and narrow. This section of river, which marks the border between Kentucky and Missouri, can handle moderate flood waters of either the Mississippi or the Ohio, but not both. In the event that both rivers would flood, or a monumental flood would occur, the combined river flows would flood vast areas of these two states.
To protect against this occurrence, the US Army Corps of Engineers installed a relief valve in the river system. A low spot was built in the levee at Birds Point, which is just downriver from Cairo. In the event of a large flood, the waters would overtop this levee, causing it to fail. When it fails, up to one-fifth of the river flow would be diverted through the New Madrid Floodway. A 1,500 foot wide gap in the levee system just north of New Madrid would allow the water in the floodway to rejoin the Mississippi River. The result is that a large fraction of Mississippi and Ohio River flood water would bypass the narrow section of the river, likely sparing much of the adjacent farming regions from flooding.

There turns out to be two glitches in this plan. First, when the floodway was first used, the levee at Birds Point refused to fail, so the US Army was forced to blow the levee with explosives. Second, the outlet near New Madrid allows water from smaller floods to flow backwards into the floodway, needlessly flooding the farmland in the floodway area.

The US Army Corps of Engineers has a plan to fix these issues. First, the levee at Birds Point would be converted into a fuse plug. That is, pipes would be installed in the levee to allow explosives to be pumped in and detonated when needed. This allows the US Army Corps of Engineers to pick the time when the floodway is opened rather than leaving it to chance. Second, the gap in the levees near New Madrid would be closed off. This would prevent the backflow floods. It would also prevent the water from exiting the floodway naturally. The plan is to install two large pumping stations to pump out the floodway.

This plan is not without its critics. They argue that nature should be allowed to do its job without human intervention. They also see the backflow flooding from the outlet gap as beneficial to the wetlands rather than the annual destruction of large areas of farmland.

[TODO]

In 08 i had a cabin at Huntington Point north of Greenville. It was 8 feet up and got a foot in it. Ended up costing 20K. That sucked.
We didnt kill any big deer the next year and had a lot of crazy looking racks. Im sure this year will be the same. Good luck to the folks that are gonna get wet. Im out of that cabin now but you can loose a lot of sleep worrying about it.

[Hambone]

In 08 i had a cabin at Huntington Point north of Greenville. It was 8 feet up and got a foot in it. Ended up costing 20K. That sucked.
We didnt kill any big deer the next year and had a lot of crazy looking racks. Im sure this year will be the same. Good luck to the folks that are gonna get wet. Im out of that cabin now but you can loose a lot of sleep worrying about it.

We are moving furniture to the dry side this week. Our camp made it through the 08 flood high and dry, but this one is scaring me.

[Wingman]

Well, worry does not do a thing to help the cause. All you can really do is prepare your things then listen to a little Zeppelin. If it gets too bad, I'll just drive to the hill at Tchula.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s

[mudsucker]

...Ten thousand River Commissions...cannot tame that lawless stream...
cannot say to it, "Go here," or "Go there," and make it obey.
-Mark Twain

"I am down here at the Head of Passes sucking mud as fast as I can!'
-Mudsucker-