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Rage broadheads

Postby duckkiller » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:40 pm

Ive always shot a fix blade Muzzy 75 grain, thinking about going to a 75 grain Rage. Anyone have likes/dislikes about Rage?
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby JLT » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:23 pm

stick with muzzy....they are tried and true and they don't have to have a bunch of pro's to back them up. I went back to muzzy's from mechanical's last year. This is one opinion out of many that you will get, but when my computer at the office gets back up and running I will try to post some pictures to prove my thinking. Jt
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby Weatherby5 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:51 pm

Rages are pretty good broadheads. Me and some buddies go to texas every yr hog hunting, and even with marginal shots they are no problem putting them down.

Im not saying take bad shots but they are forgiving if you do.
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby Dutch Dog » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:45 pm

Opinions on broadheads are like buttonholes. I've heard both good and bad stories about Rage broadheads. I've definitely seen some major devastation caused by them, but with any mechanical broadhead there's the off chance that it might not deploy. Here's the scoop on broadheads. If you shoot a fixed blade broadhead through BOTH lungs, no matter the type, brand, blade configuration, cutting diameter, blade thickness, etc etc that deer will be on the ground within 15 seconds, period, end of story. If you shoot a deer through both lungs with a mechanical broadhead, even if it doesn't deploy you will still kill that deer, you just might not have a great bloodtrail if it doesn't deploy. It falls back on good old fashioned shot placement. You should shoot what works for you and you have confidence in. Personally I have a lot of confidence in Thunderhead 85's. I've been shooting them since they first came out and as best I can remember every game animal I've ever killed has been take with them from 500 plus pound elk in Colorado to hogs in Texas to deer in Mississippi.
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby jdbuckshot » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:11 am

Broadheads to me should be rated by these simple measures.

1. Dependability. will this head shoot the same way everytime? fly the same way?

2. Durability. How many times can i expect to shoot a deer with this head? how many times can i practice with it?

4. accuraccy How will this head tune out of my bow? how to they match up to my practice points?

5. sharpness How sharp is this head, can i re-sharpen it?


The rage is no doubt a lethal broad head, but when compared to a fixed blade such as a muzzy, or slick trick it comes up short on the performance a hunter should expect. harvesting a deer with archery equipment is about percise shot placment, not the size of the hole you put in a deer.

for $45 a 3 pack. it will give you three shots at a deer. after those three shots your are subject to buying a new pack or changing blades, Simply to much money invested. A three pack of slick tricks is $25 and they are super sharp and you can shoot them through a 50 gallon drum and not tear them up. with a little time on a stone, the blades can be sharper than when bought new. thunderhead, muzzy, and slick tricks are my top picks. with my fav being the slick trick because its easy to tune and shoots like field points.


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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby huntersmky » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:21 am

Thunderheads. getting the job done for years.
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby Blake Williamson » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:27 am

G5 Montek!!!

I got one that has killed 3 deer and about to do another season
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby camlock » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:38 pm

unless it's new for this year, they don't make 75 grain Rage.... FYI
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby Relentless » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:10 pm

jdbuckshot wrote:Broadheads to me should be rated by these simple measures.

1. Dependability. will this head shoot the same way everytime? fly the same way?

2. Durability. How many times can i expect to shoot a deer with this head? how many times can i practice with it?

4. accuraccy How will this head tune out of my bow? how to they match up to my practice points?

5. sharpness How sharp is this head, can i re-sharpen it?


The rage is no doubt a lethal broad head, but when compared to a fixed blade such as a muzzy, or slick trick it comes up short on the performance a hunter should expect. harvesting a deer with archery equipment is about percise shot placment, not the size of the hole you put in a deer.

for $45 a 3 pack. it will give you three shots at a deer. after those three shots your are subject to buying a new pack or changing blades, Simply to much money invested. A three pack of slick tricks is $25 and they are super sharp and you can shoot them through a 50 gallon drum and not tear them up. with a little time on a stone, the blades can be sharper than when bought new. thunderhead, muzzy, and slick tricks are my top picks. with my fav being the slick trick because its easy to tune and shoots like field points.


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By this system Muzzy fails miserably:

1. Muzzy's are not consistent in the least bit...take 6 of them and put them together (that's your first sign) they will vary in weight by up to 10 grams in some cases...than on top of that the blades don't sit the same in every single one meaning they will fly differently, and if they didn't...broadhead tuning wouldn't exist. Lastly, you've got to do a spin test on a Muzzy to get it perfect. They were great broadheads in they're day, but it's like a typewriter, it'll still get it done, but there is better ways.

2. Muzzy blades bend...bottomline.

3. you forgot 3...

4. 99% of the time you can take a modern bow, do a paper tune, walkback tune, creep tune, you name it...get it driving tacks...take and shoot a muzzy....you'll hit low left or low right.

5. Sure you can resharpen any head out...but let's be real it just went through a shoulder so a muzzy is broken and bent so you can sharpen it up but it will still be jacked up.

In my opinion the best flying broadhead out in a a G5 Tekan, but if you want to shoot a fixed blade bradhead...try the g5 Montec.
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby JLT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:16 pm

Montec's are not sharp enough out of the pack and without spending a great deal of time with them and knowing what you are doing they will not shave. Other than the sharpness factor I really like them, but a broadhead must shave....period. I have seen a lot more Muzzy's lately than typewriters also :D Go by Van's and ask Kenneth about their experiences last year with expandables. Some people have had really good luck wiht them and I have killed a lot of animals with Spitfire's, but after last year I am finished with expandables....Just too much to go wrong.

If someone will post the picture for me I would like to show you all about my experience with expandables. I think you all would be interested. Give me an e-mail address and I will send the pic to you.

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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby camlock » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:27 pm

I agree with all your point about Muzzy, but I will say this...when you got one flying RIGHT and you shoot a deer right with it, they just don't get much better time after time...a well tuned Muzzy that has new sharp blades is more consistent with it's pentration and damage than ANYTHING ON THE MARKET...problem is getting a well tuned one that is sharp...

I think Thunderhead XP flys better than any other fixed position I have shot....

G5 montec is a good head but it's like shooting a butter knife and once you hack the crap out of it to get it sharp, then it ain't precision tuned and flying great anymore...so good luck with those...
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby JLT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:32 pm

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Shot quartering away with a spitfire. The arrow deflected on contact and went behind the skin into the front leg knuckle joint and when the deer pushed off the arrow came right back out. I had the same thing happen with a doe a week later. I had a lot of success with this head, but I am through with them after this.
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby camlock » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:41 pm

you were shooting a Spitfire.... :? you shouldn't be surprised
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby camlock » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:41 pm

you were shooting a Spitfire!! :?
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Re: Rage broadheads

Postby jdbuckshot » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:53 pm

Relentless wrote:
jdbuckshot wrote:Broadheads to me should be rated by these simple measures.

1. Dependability. will this head shoot the same way everytime? fly the same way?

2. Durability. How many times can i expect to shoot a deer with this head? how many times can i practice with it?

4. accuraccy How will this head tune out of my bow? how to they match up to my practice points?

5. sharpness How sharp is this head, can i re-sharpen it?


The rage is no doubt a lethal broad head, but when compared to a fixed blade such as a muzzy, or slick trick it comes up short on the performance a hunter should expect. harvesting a deer with archery equipment is about percise shot placment, not the size of the hole you put in a deer.

for $45 a 3 pack. it will give you three shots at a deer. after those three shots your are subject to buying a new pack or changing blades, Simply to much money invested. A three pack of slick tricks is $25 and they are super sharp and you can shoot them through a 50 gallon drum and not tear them up. with a little time on a stone, the blades can be sharper than when bought new. thunderhead, muzzy, and slick tricks are my top picks. with my fav being the slick trick because its easy to tune and shoots like field points.


JD


By this system Muzzy fails miserably:

1. Muzzy's are not consistent in the least bit...take 6 of them and put them together (that's your first sign) they will vary in weight by up to 10 grams in some cases...than on top of that the blades don't sit the same in every single one meaning they will fly differently, and if they didn't...broadhead tuning wouldn't exist. Lastly, you've got to do a spin test on a Muzzy to get it perfect. They were great broadheads in they're day, but it's like a typewriter, it'll still get it done, but there is better ways.

2. Muzzy blades bend...bottomline.

3. you forgot 3...

4. 99% of the time you can take a modern bow, do a paper tune, walkback tune, creep tune, you name it...get it driving tacks...take and shoot a muzzy....you'll hit low left or low right.

5. Sure you can resharpen any head out...but let's be real it just went through a shoulder so a muzzy is broken and bent so you can sharpen it up but it will still be jacked up.

In my opinion the best flying broadhead out in a a G5 Tekan, but if you want to shoot a fixed blade bradhead...try the g5 Montec.


i agree about the muzzy head

3. is the UNKNOWN factor :shock:

Im not a huge fan of muzzy heads, i would take them over a rage head any day. Slick Tricks are my favorite head on the market, there blades are twice as thick as a muzzy or thunderhead.
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