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Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:01 pm
by Greenhead329
Thinking of trying one on my new gun, looking at getting something a little tighter than modified but not as tight as full. How many of ya'll have seen improvements in accuracy/takedowns with one vs. stock?
Im hitting well with the gun, alot better than my old one, but wondering if it would be worth it to try an improve just a hair more
The gun is used for duck and dove, and will not be shooting black cloud.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:04 am
by teul2
you probably dont want to shoot any tighter than MOD with steel.
Most people go for a light mod for steel.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:19 am
by Greenhead22
Greenhead329 wrote:Thinking of trying one on my new gun, looking at getting something a little tighter than modified but not as tight as full.
A mod choke gives you a full pattern with steel. Steel patterns much tighter than lead. Most of your duck chokes are imp mod, which gives you an x-full pattern, which in my opinion is too tight. I shoot light mod all season, which in turns gives you a imp mod pattern.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:17 am
by Greenhead329
Cant decide between the carlsons, kicks or pure gold..anyone have experience with these?
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:29 am
by teul2
I shoot carlsons out of my O/U
I like em.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:32 am
by Greenhead22
Go with a Briley Extended, proven chokes and will save you some money.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:45 am
by aweyerman
I'm shooting a kicks high flyer mod with bc #4's and its pretty darn deadly.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:40 am
by The Waterfowler
I read all these aftermarket choke tube threds with interest as most people don't need a tighter choke, on the contrary a more open one while also learning how to get the ducks in good killing range. To many with all these super duper long range chokes, shooters think that it makes them a better shot and able to kill birds at extreme ranges which results in more cripples and decoy shy birds. You said that "I'm hitting well with the gun" so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Most of the time I shoot a factory modified in my SBE and sometimes use a Terror light modified and the only time I tighten up is with a Terror .675 for turkeys, which is more open than a lot of turkey chokes. Since I started shooting them the last 47 turkeys I've killed have been from 6 feet to 60+ yards. With a lot of the new ammo on the market not developed to shoot through extremely tight chokes I often wonder that all this aftermarket choke theory is just another way for manufacturers to make money. I also shoot Xpert 1 1/4 oz. loads 90% of the time on waterfowl. After all if you make camo rubber dog-do duck hunters would buy it and I think the aftermarket choke tubes fall into this category. Some Black-Hoodie idol shoots one so I have to so I can be as good as he is has become quite common. He's being paid to shoot them!!! and will swap horses in mid-stream if the money is right. Just like Phil Robertson did going from Browning to Benelli among others. I spent a lot of time with a manufacturer developing his choke tubes and I learned several things. All choke tubes are made out of tubular steel except one. And all tubular steel has a seam which is why Terror Tubes are drilles out of solid bar stock that is the highest Rockwell Density possible and still be machined. This can eleminate two things that I've seen happen first hand. One blowing off the end of an extended choke that I saw happen on a Carlson and another blowing off the end of a SX2 barrel that was caused by a tubular steel choke rupturing along the seam. Ported choke tubes and wad-strippers are another gimick to sell the products also IMO. A tighter choke never makes someone a better shot, practicing and confidence in what you have makes you a better shot.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:52 am
by LawDawg
The Waterfowler wrote:I read all these aftermarket choke tube threds with interest as most people don't need a tighter choke, on the contrary a more open one while also learning how to get the ducks in good killing range. To many with all these super duper long range choke shooters thinks that makes them a better shot and able to kill birds at extreme ranges which results in more cripples and decoy shy birds. You said that "I'm hitting well with the gun" so if it ain't broke don't fix it. Most of the time I shoot a factory modified in my SBE and sometimes use a Terror light modified and the only time I tighten up is with a Terror .675 for turkeys, which is more open than a lot of turkey chokes. Since I started shooting them the last 47 turkeys I've killed have been from 6 feet to 60+ yards. With a lot of the new ammo on the market not developed to shoot through extremely tight chokes I often wonder that all this aftermarket choke theory is just another way for manufacturers to make money. I also shoot Xpert 1 1/4 oz. loads 90% of the time on waterfowl. After all if you make camo rubber dog-do duck hunters would buy it and I think the aftermarket choke tubes fall into this category. Some Black-Hoodie idol shoots one so I have to so I can be as good as he is has become quite common. He's being paid to shoot them!!! and will swap horses in mid-stream if the money is right. Just like Phil Robertson did going from Browning to Benelli among others. I spent a lot of time with a manufacturer developing his choke tubes and I learned several things. All choke tubes are made out of tumular steel except one. And all tubular steel has a seam which is why Terror Tubes are drilles out of solid bar stock that is the highest Rockwell Density possible and still be machined. This can eleminate two things that I've seen happen first hand. One blowing off the end of an extended choke that I saw happen on a Carlson and another blowing off the end of a SX2 barrel that was caused by a tubular steel choke rupturing along the seam. Ported choke tubes and wad-strippers are another gimick to sell the products also IMO. A tighter choke never makes someone a better shot, practicing and confidence in what you have makes you a better shot.

I like that explanation. I use skeet chokes in both barrels in the timber and that eliminates taking long shots and using that dreaded 3rd (or fourth for some people) shot, which is a debate for a different day.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:53 am
by DUCKAHOLIC
And that boys...................is the bottom line
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:31 pm
by Greenhead329
Thanks for the information Mr. Pitt!
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:42 pm
by aweyerman
If the Waterfowler says it I'll take it as fact without asking questions. Nuff said.
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:07 pm
by grnhed
Greenhead22 wrote:Greenhead329 wrote:Thinking of trying one on my new gun, looking at getting something a little tighter than modified but not as tight as full.
A mod choke gives you a full pattern with steel. Steel patterns much tighter than lead. Most of your duck chokes are imp mod, which gives you an x-full pattern, which in my opinion is too tight. I shoot light mod all season, which in turns gives you a imp mod pattern.
This is exactly what I do and have had very good success with it the past 7 or 8 years
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:58 pm
by deltadukman
Mr. Pitt,
Are the chokes you are referring to, the ones made by SRM...the sure cycle people?
Re: Aftermarket choke tubes?
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:46 pm
by The Waterfowler
Yes, they are the best made on the market. We have turkey chokes for 10's, 12's and 20's that have all performed well. My boys use them on Geese a lot too.