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He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:01 pm
by smdswarrior
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:08 pm
by mossyisland
juvenile mallard drake. First and last time down the flyaway.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:45 pm
by Denduke
With the recent preoccupation in this place, I'd say that's an old Bull Dyker...ie lost the female and the male hormones taking over or maybe if indeed a young drake (with hens bill), it's a fag...

That's just an opinion, not meant to offend the closet homos around here...
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:08 pm
by Double R 2
It's an old hen. The bill is the cincher. Where's The Waterfowler to weigh in?!
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:42 pm
by RedEyed Duck
Double R 2 wrote:It's an old hen. The bill is the cincher.
Bingo
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:01 pm
by mossyisland
i am wrong
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:03 pm
by Ordek Avci
Found this on a legit birding site. Any of y'all ever heard of this?
Intersex Mallards
The following bird appears to be intersex, a female Mallard that is developing male characteristics. Intersexes in nature are rare but not exceptional and quite a few similar ducks can be found among internet images, though many are difficult to identify as such. Many intersex Mallards bear a striking resemblance to some Mallard hybrids, especially Mallard x Black Duck hybrids, but can often be told apart by the combination of female-type bill and extensively male-like plumage.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:07 pm
by mossyisland
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:14 pm
by The Waterfowler
What RR said. It's an aged hen incapable of reproduction as it is producing both testosterone and estrogen. As he said, the orange bill is the give away. A hermaphrodite, XXY chrosomal, bird won't show orange in the bill. I've actually seen several with solid green heads.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:57 pm
by feather
I know EXACTLY what that is...one dead mofo. No really I was wondering if it might be a wigeon/mallard...pretty sharp tail but I'll go with the sex mix up line too.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:28 am
by Ordek Avci
The Waterfowler wrote:What RR said. It's an aged hen incapable of reproduction as it is producing both testosterone and estrogen. As he said, the orange bill is the give away. A hermaphrodite, XXY chrosomal, bird won't show orange in the bill. I've actually seen several with solid green heads.
The link that mossyisland posted was not the one I saw, but basically says the same thing I was thinking, and the same thing y'all are saying (RR and The Waterfowler). I have always heard the old females called "intersex" because, like our interstates leave one state for a next, these birds were "leaving" one sex for the other due to their hormone levels being out of whack. Whatever you call them, it's an oddity.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:28 pm
by chef
it's a ugly son or daughter of a bitcha
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:20 am
by arduckslayer
feather wrote:I know EXACTLY what that is...one dead mofo. No really I was wondering if it might be a wigeon/mallard...pretty sharp tail but I'll go with the sex mix up line too.
The Waterfowler posted some pics of what a MallardxWigeon looks like. It's a beautiful bird, you should check them out. Look for his topic on the main page about hybrids and mutants.
Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:22 am
by cwink
I don't know about the duck.. But if my wife came home and found that thing laying on her granite counter top she would turn me from a he to a she....

Re: He/She It, or What?
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:18 pm
by blind-ambition
I killed a duck that looks identical to this one several years ago. I have always figure it was a wigeon - mallard cross. It has both the same characteristics of a hen and drake mallard but is alot smaller than the typical mallard. the size of the duck is the same size as a wigeon. Either way it looks good on my wall with my other ducks and critters.