Major waterfowl project(s)

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Major waterfowl project(s)

Postby Caller1 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:37 am

Something that has been on my mind more and more. Can we not develop more and better managed waterfowl projects in MS. I know some of our refuges are "Waterfowl Friendly" but they seem to miss the point. I would love to see MS develop property like AR has done, and like MO is really doing.

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Got to see this Waterfowl holy land this year and it was almost unbelievable.

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This is the sanctuary of Bayou Meto. I know Bayou Meto is ancient waterfowl land, but we could try. The ag land that Dahomey has "managed" has not worked to hold birds. The states needs to do something like this, imo.

How do you pay for it? Double, even triple, the price of the out-of-state duck stamp. Nobody would balk. OOS's are going to come here, they can pay more and probably wouldn't complain (so what if they did?). Duck hunting may be our states biggest tourism draw. Almost certain it is now in the Delta. Where is Jackson's attention to this? Hotels in Cleveland are close to capacity on any given night, even during the week, not just weekends. Little spots in Ruleville, Hollandale, Tunica all stay busy with AL and GA hunters. Lots of dollars being spent which equals tax dollars for the state. Just think the state needs to take the ball and run with it.

For those of you that wish OOS's would stay home, not going to happen. You can't squash it, change it, or apparently discourage it. Might as well have them pay for improvements.
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Postby vicksburg » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:51 am

I've never been to Bayou Meto, but have heard it's as good as it gets.
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Postby quackerbarrell » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:10 am

I have never been to Bayou Meto, but like most others have heard a lot about it. I being one of those OOS's that you are referring to do not mind one bit a little more for a waterfowl stamp. The guys that I hunt with and myself work very hard in the off season to make the best habitat for ducks during the down season as well as during the season. The time and effort that we put in, we feel is worth it. I do feel that Miss. has the capability of progressing in efforts regarding areas being used for conservation and managed solely for migratory birds including but not limited to waterfowl.

I'm actually going to be interning come the fall at DU Headquarters here in Memphis, and hope to eventually acquire a position there after graduating.. I also plan to continue to get a Masters of Communication in a field closely related to conservation studies, so I can continue to do my part in preserving the sport for years to come. So please be easy on us OOS's as you refer to them as. Some of us are doing our part!
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Postby mudsucker » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:20 am

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Postby GET-N-RITE » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:24 pm

How do you pay for it? Double, even triple, the price of the out-of-state duck stamp. Nobody would balk. OOS's are going to come here, they can pay more and probably wouldn't complain (so what if they did?). Duck hunting may be our states biggest tourism draw. Almost certain it is now in the Delta. Where is Jackson's attention to this? Hotels in Cleveland are close to capacity on any given night, even during the week, not just weekends. Little spots in Ruleville, Hollandale, Tunica all stay busy with AL and GA hunters. Lots of dollars being spent which equals tax dollars for the state. Just think the state needs to take the ball and run with it.

For those of you that wish OOS's would stay home, not going to happen. You can't squash it, change it, or apparently discourage it. Might as well have them pay for improvements.


Worst sheet I have read in awhile. You boys don't have it as bad as you think. You know how you get stuff like this. You double even triple in state licenses, that’s how. I pay 150 for a sportsman’s permit in state. MS out of state licenses are competitive with other states. There has been a 115% increase in 5 years (write that down) where I am from. Ohh yeah MS duck hunting is not cracked up to what it is made out to be at least the 2 years I have been here. I don't post much on stuff like this but I get tried of hearing and reading the same ol sheet. Here is your solution, make it where nobody can hunt anywhere but their own state and only residents of their state can enjoy and use ones states resources. Do this and let’s see how well MS does. I am sure you are now ready to start flaming and let me have it so go ahead and let it loose. Been get cussed since I was 3 yours will be no different.

You might want to take a look at this also before you burn them keys up. In state permits are where the money is made like I have stated above and MS is one of the cheapest around.

http://www.nssf.org/IndustryResearch/pd ... _State.pdf
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Postby quackerbarrell » Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:40 pm

JKB87 Who are you directing that at?
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Postby Caller1 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:24 pm

Sheez, Get-n-rite, you appear to be a an idiot. :lol: Use the preview button before posting to make sure your post is coherent.

What side are you arguing, anyway? On the side of let's improve MS duck hunting cuz it:
MS duck hunting is not cracked up to what it is made out to be
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We are complaining about nothing:
You boys don't have it as bad as you think
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Not going to argue with you though because:
Been get cussed since I was 3 yours will be no different.


One last question: You been typing since you was 3?

Change your profile, be proud of where you are from. Get a haircut... stand up straight...and so forth and so on.... :wink:
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Postby H20fowlkiller » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:57 pm

GET-N-RITE wrote: I pay 150 for a sportsman’s permit in state. MS out of state licenses are competitive with other states.
i payed almost that for 5 days in bayou meto so dont say were competitive with others, between all the out of state stuff you have to buy then another permit just to hunt that public property i would say they know how to make there money on a bunch of out of staters
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Postby JaMak84 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:15 pm

MS is one of the poorest states in the country; economically it only makes sense for us to have the cheapest in-state hunting licenses as well. If you work for the wildlife department and you want to raise more money for management, what's the smart thing to do? Raise the fees for OOS that you only have to deal with during hunting season or raise the in-state fees and piss off all the folks you have to live next door to? You try not to bite the hand that feeds you. As you stated there is more money in in-state fees than oos, so why alienate the most supportive group. If you don't like the idea of the state of MS raising the oos fees to benefit waterfowl management, you have the option of killing ducks somewhere else.
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Postby MSDawg870 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:38 pm

There's no such thing as an out-of-state duck stamp, if you raise the STATE stamp price then that would mean you would have to ante up TOO. When that happens raising stamp prices probably won't be a such a great idea. :wink:
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Postby JaMak84 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:51 pm

not talking about raising the stamp fee, talking about the non-resident liscense fee :wink:
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Postby Locked Up » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:59 pm

Do whatever you want to OOS'ers but they will still pay. If you don't get enough people envolved to work with your Rep. of the State to find a way to earmark money and get Federal matching then you're getting no where. Yes everyone should by 2-3 stamps to help with state waterfowl projects, this is a easy and great start with in most states 70-90% staying in state. We just really need to all get on the same page and help out instead of trying to push this off on someone else. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANTS SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR YOUR IMPROVEMENTS ie..(OOS LICENCE), THEN YOUR THE PROBLEM. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR MY FRIEND. WE ALL NEED TO PAY MORE. YOU HARDLY EVER GET SOMETHING IN LIFE FOR FREE AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
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Postby Caller1 » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:29 pm

Don't want anything for free, just want someone else to pay for them! OOS's could do it. Arkansas does have a Out of state duck stamp fee ($20), I am pretty sure. Let's follow their lead. I am not trying to pick on OOS's, seriously. If you have a project to be done in state, the people that live in that state have to come up with a way to pay for it that is popular with their constituency.

"IS you is, or is you ain't my constituency?" IF you ain't then you don't have a dog in this fight, cause if you ain't got a vote (i.e. OOS don't vote in MS)!!! Ain't that something?!? Kinda fun from my daydreaming point of view. Guess this conversation is for in-state hunters!

All that being said, if I. S.'s have to help foot the bill, I haven't seen many that don't spend a ton to support their sport, I'm sure we would pony up a lil more every year from now till the end to have more ducks.
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Postby Locked Up » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:44 pm

Caller1 wrote: Arkansas does have a Out of state duck stamp fee ($20), I am pretty sure. Let's follow their lead.

JaMak84 wrote:not talking about raising the stamp fee, talking about the non-resident liscense fee :wink:


Ya, both of these things will help as long as the money is marked for these such projects that we are talking about. I am with you on better improvements, impoundments, refuge, whatever. And no it don't hurt to allow OOS's to pay more, I'm just saying we all could probably pay a little more to help it along....

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