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Before you answer might want to take a look at the video..

http://www.gamousa.com/Videos/62_wmv.htm

I've seen that one before. I'll stick with something a little bigger.

duramax wrote:I've seen that one before. I'll stick with something a little bigger.

most of been one of them yankee hogs these around here heck a 308 bounce off their hard heads.

I've killed many a hog with a .22. It's not the size of the gun, but how well you aim it.

my favorite is a 9 inch bladed knife that i made and a pack of damn good dogs. guns put them in the truck and come have some fun

duramax wrote:I've seen that one before. I'll stick with something a little bigger.

Me too. If I'm going after a hog, and I mean a real hawg, I want something that I know will put it down for good when I hit it. (The last thing I want is for one of those monsters to 'wake up' while I'm carrying it to the skinning rack.)

jacksbuddy wrote:

duramax wrote:I've seen that one before. I'll stick with something a little bigger.

Me too. If I'm going after a hog, and I mean a real hawg, I want something that I know will put it down for good when I hit it. (The last thing I want is for one of those monsters to 'wake up' while I'm carrying it to the skinning rack.)

I agree I will take something with a little more knock down power.

JaMak84 wrote:I've killed many a hog with a .22. It's not the size of the gun, but how well you aim it.

AMEN,

I dropped a 120 pound sow with my old Glennfield .22 cal semi-auto about 4 years ago. Granted it took me 3 shots, but she was on the run. Seen her running and followed her in my little scope. 3rd shot I kept following through and lost her in the scope. Then I hear my buddies yelling that she cut a front flip dead in her tracks. It's not the size of the gun, it's the spot to aim for.

I like my Rem 7600 in .308. I do want to find me a Marlin 45/70 just to have though.

http://www.airgunexpress.com/Accessorie ... 8-4444.htm

I'd like to see that used in wild game rounds. Chambered for 223 or 7mm-08

tunica wrote:

duramax wrote:I've seen that one before. I'll stick with something a little bigger.

most of been one of them yankee hogs these around here heck a 308 bounce off their hard heads.

That is why you use a 220 swift. More penetration than a 308...

cwinkler wrote:That is why you use a 220 swift. More penetration than a 308...

How's that when a swift's energy is less than 2000 ft/lbs and a .308 is around 3000? Velocity doesn't matter near as much as energy when it comes to penetration with bullets.

duramax wrote:

cwinkler wrote:That is why you use a 220 swift. More penetration than a 308...

How's that when a swift's energy is less than 2000 ft/lbs and a .308 is around 3000? Velocity doesn't matter near as much as energy when it comes to penetration with bullets.

Tell that to the piece of steel we shot both of those rounds at.. The .308 almost went thru.. Left a big bulge on the back.. The 220 went all the way thru and looked like it came out both sides of the steel.. Energy is knock down power.. Penetration is shear speed and resistance.. The 308 tries to muscle its way thru the steel.. The 220 swift is traveling about 1,000 FPS faster than the 308 and the size of the bullet is extremely small therefore it can punch right thru. Imagine a piece of cloth.. Is it easier to push a needle thru the cloth or a pencil?

Here is another example I got off a site.

Hi I have owned a 220 swift in a Ruger M77 Varmit rifle and was amazed at the tremendous power it had for such a small bullet. We were shooting at an axle from a tractor everyone there had different calibers, all the shots exploded on the shaft, but the swift took pieces out of it amazing.

Here is some more info on the swift.. Check out the velocities on the right hand side of the page.. Over 4,200 FPS..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift

Bullet type is also going to have a lot to do with how it shoots thru steel. But in actual balistics tests for penetration wet phonebooks (poor mans balistics gel) the .308 with a bonded bullet will travel thru more books. Most .22 cal bullet aren't made to hold together (excluding fmj's). They are made to hold together until the hit something and deposit all their energy immediately. Unlike bonded or other hunting bullets that are made to hold together passed the point of impact. That is a good reason your swift is better in some respects to a .308 on hogs if you are shooting them in the head. The bullet will deposit all its energy in a few inches. But if you are shooting a hog in the chest region, you will need that energy a bigger gun gives to give real knock down power.

cwinkler wrote:Here is some more info on the swift.. Check out the velocities on the right hand side of the page.. Over 4,200 FPS..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift

Those are pretty mild velocities for a swift. I know a good bit about varmint rifles. I can load my .223 with a 40gr bullet at close to 4000fps. A swift doesn't have much problems reaching mid to high 4000's fps with a 40 grain bullet. I've heard of guys pushing over 5,000 with 30gr Bergers. You just have to worry about barrel wear at that kind of speed. That is why most loading info has them at around 22-250 velocities, when they are capable of a more.