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Pinch Collar

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:56 pm
by Click
Can anyone recommend a good pinch collar? Also, what is the difference between a pinch collar and choke collar?
Thanks

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:17 am
by skuna
pinch collar pinches and choke collar chokes. They have prongs in the inside of the collar the squeeze together when pressure it applied to leash.

I've got a complete of pinch collars but don't care for them and don't see the need in them. A good choke chain or a slip lead is really the most you need.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:35 am
by goosebruce
I disagree. A pinch collar a lot of times is more effective. Espeically for a smaller person/ stronger dog combo, cause if a dog pulls on a pinch collar hes putting the pressure on himself. I use a pinch collar much more than a choker personally.

To me, a choke collar is like a nick, and I subsitute tugs on the choker for nicks on the collar. A pinch collar is direct pressure, pressure is applied until the dog's actions stop it. Different forms of pressure. Some dogs understand one when the understand the other, some don't. Dogs that tend to freeze or clam, oftentimes the simple message of a pinch collar helps them see that.

You can hurt a dog's larnex with a choker. You will not hurt a dog with a pinch collar anything short of total abuse. There have been studies done with damaged larynexs from choker use (the one I saw was working german shepards in europe followed for their entire lives, and it was astounding the # of dogs that had damage from chokers).

A pinch collar looks like some kind of arcahic torute device. For that reason alone, most people shy away from them. Be careful where you use it cause you can certainyl stir up some emotions from people when they see it. travis

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:54 am
by Dog's Eye
goosebruce wrote:
A pinch collar looks like some kind of arcahic torute device. For that reason alone, most people shy away from them. Be careful where you use it cause you can certainyl stir up some emotions from people when they see it. travis



I felt that way about ecollars, till I used one the first time. It's more more effective and humane than a serious hands on correction. And, I can see where the same would be true of the pinch.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:07 pm
by goosebruce
You can force a dog in public with an ecollar a lot easier than with a heeling stick. This I can attest to cause I do waterforce in a church parking lot on the side of whitten road. hehe. Public percetion is reality when it comes to things like smacking a dog. travis

Nothing like it!

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 5:35 am
by Jay Dufour
You get a 80 lb bone headed 9 month old that has NEVER been made to do ANYTHING in for training.......instead of skiing behind this boy with a choke chain.....use the pinch collar.....He bees heeling like a good boy.....in a matter of minutes! :wink: We dont use them for anything but the demons that people send for training,because they are not necessary.I get em fron Dogs Afield.Good Luck

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:19 am
by teul2
Pinch collar
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choke collar
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:03 pm
by Click
Teul2,

That pinch collar looks like something I put on my wife every now and then.

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:44 pm
by skuna
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:20 am
by Dog's Eye
Click wrote:Teul2,

That pinch collar looks like something I put on my wife every now and then.




Damn son, wrong forum :lol:

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:22 am
by littlesmacko89
i had a trainer tell me that a choke collar will cause some type of swelling in the esphogus if used to much and he recommended me to get a pinch collar and i did

i used a pinch collar on bout of my labs and most of the time a 7-9 month old lab will be trying to wonder not with a pinch collar they won't they will be looking at u the whole time

i trained my 8 month old lab in bout 2 weeks with a pinch collar maybe less than that i don't know. but if he is acting up and wont mind i will go get the pinch collar out and he won't act up anymore cause he don't like it at all but it works great teaches them quick and easier for you cause u dont have to yank hard to make them do what u want them to do for you

just my 2 cents

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:42 am
by Bustin' Greenheads
bought a pinch collar yesterday. buddie of mine couldnt believe i was going to use it on my dog. dog was wanting to get away from me with a choke collar. i am a believer in the pinch collar. i used to think they were awful when my grandfather had one. now i see why. that dog is alot calmer and pays attention more now. i would go with a pinch collar rather than a choke. just my opinion.

pinch or choke

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:04 pm
by MD11Pilot
Was suffering from "autopilot boredom" this evening from Anchorage to Toronto and thinking about this thread. I've used both and definitely prefer the pinch collar...but I admit I've never seen any "directions" on the right or wrong way to use one. I believe they are safer than a choke chain for two reasons: 1) it is about 4 times as wide as a choke chain thus distributes the pressure over a wider area and; 2) by design the amount of constriction is limited - it physically cannot "choke down" to nothing like a choke chain can. My question is how snugly should it be adjusted? You can add or remove links easily to the point that it couldn't get tight enough to "choke"...can't do that with a choker chain. I think I have mine adjusted so I get a little "choke" with the pinch...whatever that means. And I always remove and put it on by taking it apart and rehooking it...I don't want those prongs anywhere close to my dog's eyes which would happen if you slipped it on and off like a choker chain.

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:01 pm
by salty
http://www.leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm

Here is a link about how to fit a pinch collar.

Kevin

Prong

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:49 pm
by MD11Pilot
Thanks Salty! Very helpful