Wildrose Kennels

[BirminghamAttorney]

Hello everyone.
I was wondering what the word is on Mike Stewart and Wildrose Kennels. Any imput would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[chance]

TallyHo!!! Depends on what you want. In his area of expertise he is OK.

[goosebruce]

Tally-ho yurself.... If I was looking for that kinda pooch, Id have to check out Haynes Floyd at Double T british kennels in como. travis

[JimAire]

Each time I have seen Mike's dogs at a show, they were all very impressive with their calmness and obedience. I bought a puppy from him last year. It is now six months old and I am taking her back to Mike for training next week. I attended his two day "handler's workshop" recently and was very impressed with the way he teaches the dogs and the layout of his training facilities. He doesn't train the labs by the using shock collars as many trainers do. I'm sure everyone has their own opinion of retreiver training, but mine is that if a dog has to be trained with a shock collar then it is genetically inferior and if a trainer uses them exclusively on all dogs, then his training is inferior. I'm not saying shock collars don't have a purpose, they do--for breaking a bad habit in a stubborn dog, but I don't want a dog that has to be trained with one, or a trainer that can't train without one. If you ask me again in a few months, I can then give you a much better opinion of Mike's training since I will have gained some expensive experience.

[JimAire]

Each time I have seen Mike's dogs at a show, they were all very impressive with their calmness and obedience. I bought a puppy from him last year. It is now six months old and I am taking her back to Mike for training next week. I attended his two day "handler's workshop" recently and was very impressed with the way he teaches the dogs and the layout of his training facilities. He doesn't train the labs by the using shock collars as many trainers do. I'm sure everyone has their own opinion of retreiver training, but mine is that if a dog has to be trained with a shock collar then it is genetically inferior and if a trainer uses them exclusively on all dogs, then his training is inferior. I'm not saying shock collars don't have a purpose, they do--for breaking a bad habit in a stubborn dog, but I don't want a dog that has to be trained with one, or a trainer that can't train without one. If you ask me again in a few months, I can then give you a much better opinion of Mike's training since I will have gained some expensive experience.

[BirminghamAttorney]

Thanks Jim for the comments. I look forward to hearing about your progress over the next few months. good luck!

[Stano]

There ya go Chance, Goose you guys are inferior throw them shock collars aways and break out yo tennis shoes you gonna be doing some runnin....:::::sigh:::::: The ignorance of shock collars runs deep in you fellows. Just yesterday I trained my two too retreive with the shock collar and then when I want the tv channel changed I givem a little zap works like a charm!!! :::::sigh::: [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

[mississippi_duc_htr]

Good advice jimaire. The first lab I trained was the most stubborn dog I have ever fooled with. She was a wonderful dog and very trainable but she had a couple of bad habits. She only liked doing 3 or 4 retrieves during training and that was all she thought she had to do,,,,, wrong answer. The other was she didnt want to stay in the blind while hunting always wanting to roam around. If you didnt keep an eye on her she would slip out of the blind to go exploring, but man she could retrieve.First year I had her she got 53 tetrieves and 4 blinds. I borrowed a shock collar from a friend of mine and eliminated those two bad habits quickly.It hurt to put the voltage to her but it helped her with her problems. I didnt have to do it but twice and that was that. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

[Redhead]

I think you guys are missing the boat!

With the new technology in E-Collars today they can be a tremendous tool in the hands of some one with a small amount of common sense. They have collars that beep and shock as well as collars with variable levels of shock. I have a 85 pound male that level 8 is enough (Scale is 0-60) and a six month old female that cant feel it until about level 18-20. I have tested the levels with my own hand and it is not painful. The collar is an extension of the leash.

This said dont knock it till u tried it.

[chance]

What kind of "shows" does Mike Stewart attend? I have never seen him running a dog except in one of his own gigs.
Ecollars---beat the subject to death! You don't like em---don't use em. Real simple.

[JimAire]

Hey Chance, I first met Mike last September at the waterfowl show in Tunica where he had four of his dogs, Angus, Drake, Tommy and Drummer and again a little over a month ago at the wildlife show in Greenville where he had a booth set up. I know he also does the D.U. festivals in Memphis and Oshkosh. Don't know if he does any other shows or not.
I do agree with you on the shock collars-it's a persons individual choice..If I were training my dog, I would probably get one too since I don't have nearly enough patience.

[JimAire]

Hey Chance, I first met Mike last September at the waterfowl show in Tunica where he had four of his dogs, Angus, Drake, Tommy and Drummer and again a little over a month ago at the wildlife show in Greenville where he had a booth set up. I know he also does the D.U. festivals in Memphis and Oshkosh. Don't know if he does any other shows or not.
I do agree with you on the shock collars-it's a persons individual choice..If I were training my dog, I would probably get one too since I don't have nearly enough patience.

[goosebruce]

Geneticlly inferior? Bet you wunder if the sun is gonna come up tommorrow yur so clueless.
2 things I'll tell you for sure, if you ever want to see whut genetically inferior poor shocked to death dogs will do, I'll oblige you to the point you'll be on the phone calling to order an ecollar, and a real dog before you get home. And the other thing, if you saw him demo a dog, you saw just that, a demo. You certainly havent seen him anywhere where he didnt have total control, or could risk embaressment. Might be a nice feller, might be a good trainer, but don't try to pass that geneticly inferior $#!+ he told you off as the truth.

I stand by what I said bout that type of dog as well. If I was looking for that type a dog, Id call haynes at Double T British Kennels. Every FTCH british title in the world, with real life HRC titles to go with them. travis

[getalab]

nothing personal, but folks like ms duk htr and jim a are the ones who give e collars a bad name..you NEVER strap on a collar to "fix" a particular problem, nor do you use it because you don't have the "patience"..used correctly it's part of a total program that the dog fully understands, used without proper conditioning it creates the nightmares you hear about. E collars do not save time, in fact it's an additional step, but when thru you have a way to communicate with your dog.

[HARLEY]

Goosebruce and Chance you beat me to the punch! I was foaming at my genetically inferior mouth reading that post until I scrolled down and saw you guys already handled it. Now Im not trying to bash anybody on the sight but the statement that any dog trained with a collar is genetically inferior is absurd! Maybe this guy should call Mr. Lardy and tell him he is doing it all wrong!!! [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]