GW stop today

[levi127]

GW was nice but got me to wondering.

We came out this morning and he was waiting at end of the road. Once we got unloaded and to the vehicle he pulled down our gravel road and came up.
Asked for everything and checked everything. No problems at all.
check the birds and got onto us for having 6 on a limit and 1 loose, seperate for a mount. Also was 3 of us hunting. He saw us getting ready for photo.
His thing was we are only allowed to have 6 birds together and no more period. Well possession limit is different, meaning you can have more then 1 limit on you.

He said if we had 7 birds on a hanger and no one claimed to kill them all then he was writing a ticket to each of us then $25.00 a bird over the limit.

So even though photos taken and stuff are you still required to keep to 6 birds a hanger?

[teul2]

So 3 people came out of the woods with 17 birds or 7 birds? The way you write it, it implies you only had 7 birds between 3 hunters. 6 of them were on one strap, and one loose. That right?
Not much way to say someone was over the limit if they were separated (without watching the hunt and seeing who shot what), much less write 3 guys for one over the limit when there is only one extra bird IMO. But I am not versed on the finer points of over the limit laws.

Possession limits only apply to separate days. So that really doesn't apply if the bird came out of the woods with you.

[levi127]

Yes only 3 of us with 7 birds.
Heck he never even saw who was hunting or not, he was a long ways away from where we hunt and no access back there. So he wasnt spying or anything.

[H20 Fowl]

We got a talkin to for taking our wall pics at LLDC. Now we have to hang them by each individuals limit with our tags separating the limits. No more pretty wall pics Biggest croc of horse shat I've ever seen.

[jmh600]

Could each hunter have there own tagged nails on the wall?

[BIG TIMBER]

They way I see it if the MDWFP wants me to tag my birds, then they need to supply me with a waterproof tag, no wAy am I'm going to keep pen and paper on me to tag a duck. I don't see what the problem is, you have a daily bird limit, who cares who killed what duck. Just one more money making scam by the "man"

[ScottyLee]

Funny you mention that! Same thing happened to me too!

I didn't think anything about it but I actually had a game warden snap a pic with a bunch of ducks mixed together last year and he didn't care. Almost 40 birds to be exact. I almost wonder if he was just having a bad day.

Enjoyed it this mornin! We will do it again!!

[jkmjr]

I have had 2 encounters lately and I figured there would be some static, but both times all was well and no scolding. Very young GW.

Me and an older guy left the blind to go get him warmed up. He was struggling on a very cold morning (last year)but wanted to come back. We left some other hunters and all our equipment and guns in the blind. When we got to the road he was waiting. I explained we were going to get the older guy some warm food and coffee at the store and were heading back in. I thought he would be suspicious because we had been doing some shooting. We returned and he was still there, but gone when we all came out.

Last week we came out with 6 guys and had a helluva time getting out (gumbo mud) our butts were dragging. When we got to the trucks we literally threw everything in the first truck we came to and my son and another guy pulled out. By the time we loaded the trailor a GW pulled up. We had also been shooting, but we had no ducks and only 1 gun between the 4 of us. All 12 ducks and the guns had left. We asked if we needed to have the boys return, but he checked licenses and was on his way.

I had another experience with an older black GW with the last name Carter two years ago. One of the nicest LEO's I have ever met. It was my son's first experience with a GW and a very good one.

[Bill Collector]

Will someone please answer this for me? I understand limits and all the technicalities and hoopla that game wardens talk about when it comes to ducks. So here goes. What's the difference between limits of ducks, crappie, speckled trout, red fish, etc. Why is it acceptable to co-mingle fish when it comes to limits, but game wardens get all bent out of shape when ducks are co-mingled? What's the difference? A limit is a limit.

[Lazy Drake]

We had a gw gives us a warning about not separating/tagging ducks a while back. This is the way I look at, always have and always will. If 3 folks go hunting we can kill 18 ducks between us. As long as we have 18 or less everything is good to go. The rest is a bunch of bs generated to write more tickets.

[novacaine]

Ducks fall under Federal Migratory Bird laws........................fish are fish

[teul2]

There is no tagging requirement in the field as I read it. Only time tagging is required as I read it is if you are leaving the birds somewhere other than your house or someone else has possession of your birds.
So if the birds were separated (6 on one strap and one loose is separated to me) then there is no issue. Assuming all 6 on the strap were shot by one person.


State's Digest of Migratory Game Bird Regulations

FIELD POSSESSION:Birds must remain in your possession while in the field. No person shall give birds to another person in the field regardless of whether or not they are properly tagged.
TAGGING:No person shall give, put,or leave any migratory game bird at any place other than his/her personal abode or in the custody of another person unless the birds are tagged by the hunter with the following information:

Fed Title 50: Wildlife and Fisheries
PART 20—MIGRATORY BIRD HUNTING
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c= ... ain_02.tpl

§20.36 Tagging requirement.
No person shall put or leave any migratory game birds at any place (other than at his personal abode), or in the custody of another person for picking, cleaning, processing, shipping, transportation, or storage (including temporary storage), or for the purpose of having taxidermy services performed, unless such birds have a tag attached, signed by the hunter, stating his address, the total number and species of birds, and the date such birds were killed. Migratory game birds being transported in any vehicle as the personal baggage of the possessor shall not be considered as being in storage or temporary storage.

Now, they could feasible write you under this statute.

Fed Title 50: Wildlife and Fisheries
PART 20—MIGRATORY BIRD HUNTING
§20.37 Custody of birds of another.
No person shall receive or have in custody any migratory game birds belonging to another person unless such birds are tagged as required by §20.36.

If you admit that birds 1 and 2 were shot by person A, birds 3 and 4 shot by person B, and birds 5, 6, and 7 shot by person C. If birds 1-6 are on person A's strap, then that could be construed as person A having custody of birds 3-6 (other person's birds) and they would need to be tagged.


As to the possession limit question, no, it doesn't apply in the field. And that goes back to the last statement about multiple people having birds on one strap.

§20.35 Field possession limit.
No person shall possess, have in custody, or transport more than the daily bag limit or aggregate daily bag limit, whichever applies, of migratory game birds, tagged or not tagged, at or between the place where taken and either (a) his automobile or principal means of land transportation; or (b) his personal abode or temporary or transient place of lodging; or (c) a migratory bird preservation facility; or (d) a post office; or (e) a common carrier facility.

Keep it simple. Everyone have their own strap. Keep the birds you shoot on your strap, keep the straps separate, and you carry your own strap out to the truck. Then there won't be any issues.

[hntrpat1]

Whats so hard about keeping birds separate and I'm sure the reason the pictures of all the birds on nails got complained about is because of internet crybabies. The feds surf the net big time fellas, just saying

[deltadukman]

The feds surf the net big time fellas, just saying

So do the state boys. You'll never see me post a kill picture ever again.

[hntrpat1]

The feds surf the net big time fellas, just saying

So do the state boys. You'll never see me post a kill picture ever again.

Meh I ain't got nothing to worry bout. I haven't been killing crap since the opener