Okay, I know sink boxes are outlawed. So what are the regs on floating blinds or blinds that are at water level? Dang, I can't explain my question, but if a sneak boat is legal, then why isn't a sink box? SB?
Wingman
Question on sink box type blind.
Question on sink box type blind.
good question Wingman.... floating blinds are legal, so are water level PIT blinds... the sinkbox comes into play if it is moveable or i guess navigable to be moved from one area to another to aid in the harvest of waterfowl...{comes from the days of productive harvest for money} along with the punt guns they were deadly... killing hundreds of ducks at a time... the sneak boats appear to fit the same scenario and i'm sure if equipted with illegal means would fall into that catagory if you found an elder warden who remembered them... good question, never had that one in court...
in the old days of my grandpa, you would build a low profile boat {sneak boat} armed with a 4 in steel pipe with a pound of # 6 shot and a capped end with a fuse... who knows how much powder? all they had i assume... one good shot on the river would result in the barter for milk, butter, rabbits, pork and beef in town.... ain't things changed ???
judge jb
in the old days of my grandpa, you would build a low profile boat {sneak boat} armed with a 4 in steel pipe with a pound of # 6 shot and a capped end with a fuse... who knows how much powder? all they had i assume... one good shot on the river would result in the barter for milk, butter, rabbits, pork and beef in town.... ain't things changed ???
judge jb
Question on sink box type blind.
Wingman,
I have no intelligent answer for your question off the cuff. I would have to do some investigation. I feel certain the reason a sink box is illegal to hunt from is because it puts the hunter at unfair odds to the duck. It makes harvest more probable by placing the hunter below the water surface, creating excellent concealment in open water areas. I'm not familiar with a sink boat. That regulation is a federal regulation. Call a fereral warden to see what his response is. I'm curious to know his answer.
I have no intelligent answer for your question off the cuff. I would have to do some investigation. I feel certain the reason a sink box is illegal to hunt from is because it puts the hunter at unfair odds to the duck. It makes harvest more probable by placing the hunter below the water surface, creating excellent concealment in open water areas. I'm not familiar with a sink boat. That regulation is a federal regulation. Call a fereral warden to see what his response is. I'm curious to know his answer.
Question on sink box type blind.
I don't know exactly how a sink box worked, but seems to me it was a pit blind in the middle of a bay or lake. What I want to do, is make some type of blind to hunt divers on the ponds. I was thinking of taking some floats, making a frame over the floats and have an expanded metal floor below the surface of the water to stand on and having a bench to sit on. All this suspended between the floats, then brush up the whole thing and make it look like some sort of muskrat lodge or small island or something. I don't want an actual floating blind sticking way up out of the water. It would be stationary in the pond. Any Feds on this board?
Wingman
Wingman
Question on sink box type blind.
I had the same question two years ago.
If you read the law. It makes no sense. By strict definition, a boat is a sink box because it allows part of your body, your feet, to be below the water line.
I called and talked to both state and federal wardens about this law and the truth is that they really don't know. Several told me they wouldn't know a sink box if they saw one.
The law was passed to stop market hunting, and there really is no legitimate reason to prohibit law abiding hunters from using sink boxes. The law should be taken off the books.
Before you start building a sink box, run the physics. The weight need to displace that much water is incredible. In the old days they did it with lead.
If you read the law. It makes no sense. By strict definition, a boat is a sink box because it allows part of your body, your feet, to be below the water line.
I called and talked to both state and federal wardens about this law and the truth is that they really don't know. Several told me they wouldn't know a sink box if they saw one.
The law was passed to stop market hunting, and there really is no legitimate reason to prohibit law abiding hunters from using sink boxes. The law should be taken off the books.
Before you start building a sink box, run the physics. The weight need to displace that much water is incredible. In the old days they did it with lead.
Question on sink box type blind.
Wingman,
From what it sounds like you are wanting to build, it won't be a problem.
[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: SB ]
From what it sounds like you are wanting to build, it won't be a problem.
[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: SB ]
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Take the law off the books? Man you know how many rednecks would drown if they got out trying to make their own sinkyboxs?
Somewhere there is a percentage of a vessle that has to above water. I dont know where, or how much. travis
Somewhere there is a percentage of a vessle that has to above water. I dont know where, or how much. travis
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The old sink boxes were usually made of metal, or wood, and had gears and a hand crank to raise and lower them. They would leave them in the up position so they could easily find them again. Then when ready to hunt they would get in the box, turn the hand crank to submerge the box below the water level and "Walla" you just disappeared. I beleive that in some parts of Canada they are still legal. I'll bet it would make for an interesting hunt!! [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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JT
Question on sink box type blind.
Wingman -- Worth Mattheson wrote about sinkboxes in Waterfowl magazine two or three issues ago. It was an informative yet short piece about the distinctions between pits and sink boxes. The blinds discussed were on the NC coast. Worth also wrote an article a few years ago about hunting from true sinkboxes in one of the Canadian provinces. You may want to check out his catalog supply -- Sinkbox Waterfowl Supply -- catalog. The sneak boats and layouts are a different animal all together in my book.
What about sailing? Use of a sail is also prohibited if forward.
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