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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:20 pm
by YoBenny
"According to the ODNI's January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks."
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by Wildfowler
YoBenny wrote:Oh and by the way, debt has gone up not down since Trump has been in office, about $660 billion.
Well yes in total the debt has one up since trump has been in office to date.
Don’t know when that Snopes article was written but it was not referencing trumps debt to date. It was referencing the fact that it did indeed go down from the time he began until a certain point in time.
Just use that same link where you can track every penny of the debt for the months of February March April May and June 2017 and compare that with June July August September October November December 2016 and see if it’s down or not.
I would personally like to revisit this exact discussion at the end of trumps second term to compare the rate of increase in the national debt for the various presidents with what Trump did.
It would be interesting to know if his tax cuts stimulated and grew the economy offsetting the debt increase that just occurred, or if we somehow spiraled into a recession from the trade wars that could possibly overtake the economy to see what the effect actually was in 2021 when Mike Pence takes over.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:25 pm
by Wildfowler
YoBenny wrote:"According to the ODNI's January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks."
That’s what they’re telling us anyway.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:39 pm
by Wildfowler
I just read the Forbes article you cited and the author is correct. Obama did inherit a problem dealing with the fallout from the great recession of 2008.
The author doesn’t give any other details behind Obamas deficit spending beyond that. And we all know that they do 2008 recession did not constitute 100% of his debt accumulation.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:45 pm
by Wildfowler
Breaking news!!
EU just blinked in the high stakes game of tariff chicken.
https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-eu-tariff/4498839.html
Just heard on radio, this is the only link I can find.
Soy bean futures got a little pop on the news.
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/agricu ... ybean.html
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:46 pm
by YoBenny
He also showed that the debt increase also fell with Obama consistently for the last 6 years.
He also inherited two full blown wars to draw down.
Have a look at the discretionary military spending during his presidency.
I don't see the villain here. Yall use those numbers like an axe but in fact it's a fly swatter.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:51 pm
by Wildfowler
Nasdaq just hit record intraday high.
The pressure is now on the Chinese.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:53 pm
by Wildfowler
MAGA!!!
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/25/trump-w ... urope.html
One of the most significant steps in equitable global trade we’ve seen in generations.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:57 pm
by YoBenny
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:10 pm
by Wildfowler
Can you show us total spending also? That’s discretionary spending.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:14 pm
by YoBenny
I havent looked yet but that right there shows over 4 trillion to the military and that is above their budget which is around 600 billion annually. I wonder how much of THAT disappeared like a fart in a dust storm without a paper trail.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:18 pm
by Wildfowler
YoBenny wrote:I havent looked yet but that right there shows over 4 trillion to the military and that is above their budget which is around 600 billion annually. I wonder how much of THAT disappeared like a fart in a dust storm without a paper trail.
Probably all of it.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:17 pm
by davidees
YoBenny wrote:"According to the ODNI's January 6, 2017 report, the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) had hacked the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the personal Google email account of Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and forwarded their contents to WikiLeaks."
Sounds like a DNC problem to me. All that tells me is they’re totally incompetent and the RNC has better cyber security.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:54 pm
by YoBenny
Sounds like a DNC problem to me. All that tells me is they’re totally incompetent and the RNC has better cyber security.
Yep well by my thinking all of this data and all of their work should be housed on federal servers and be privy to the same federal protections as is given to the federal govt. I also think that all voting machines and vote tally equipment should be included in the same category and it should be a federal department in it's own right, with security that protects the integrity of the American vote as well as the data of anyone in the biz of trying to win control of our govt.
Re: What do y'all think of Trump?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:12 pm
by Wildfowler