Oil Spill in Gulf

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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby MudHog » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:09 pm

anyone with a boat who wants to help, be it charter fighermen, shrimps, oyster fishermen, etc can help:

BP is looking to contract with vessels for hire (shrimp boats, oyster boats, etc.) to deploy boom in the Gulf of Mexico. The response contractors for this program are already collecting infomation on vessels. Specifically, they need the name, owner, dimensions, characteristics gincluding length, draft, horsepower, etc) and other pertinent information you can provide. Direction and training will be provided and determined by area response plans based on the highest priority areas on down.

Current staging areas for the program are Venice, LA; Mobile, AL; Biloxi, MS; Pascagoula, MS and Pensacola, FL. So far, more than 100,000 feet of boom has been deployed, with another 400,000 available. So if you can help, please do so. There is intended to be deployed launch barges staged in areas where additional boom may be deployed.

As soon as you have gathered the relevant information on your vessel, please email that information to the managing contractor Vince Mitchell at vince.mitchell@lamor.com or 425-745-8017. As well, please copy BP's coordinator Grant Johnson at grant.johnson@bp.com
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby blgros1 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:22 pm

i wouldn't dare run my boat in that oil slick. once that chit gets in your intake you are screwed. i would however donate my time and run someone else's boat,,,,,, just saying.



MudHog wrote:anyone with a boat who wants to help, be it charter fighermen, shrimps, oyster fishermen, etc can help:

BP is looking to contract with vessels for hire (shrimp boats, oyster boats, etc.) to deploy boom in the Gulf of Mexico. The response contractors for this program are already collecting infomation on vessels. Specifically, they need the name, owner, dimensions, characteristics gincluding length, draft, horsepower, etc) and other pertinent information you can provide. Direction and training will be provided and determined by area response plans based on the highest priority areas on down.

Current staging areas for the program are Venice, LA; Mobile, AL; Biloxi, MS; Pascagoula, MS and Pensacola, FL. So far, more than 100,000 feet of boom has been deployed, with another 400,000 available. So if you can help, please do so. There is intended to be deployed launch barges staged in areas where additional boom may be deployed.

As soon as you have gathered the relevant information on your vessel, please email that information to the managing contractor Vince Mitchell at vince.mitchell@lamor.com or 425-745-8017. As well, please copy BP's coordinator Grant Johnson at grant.johnson@bp.com
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby MudHog » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:32 pm

blgros1 wrote:i wouldn't dare run my boat in that oil slick. once that chit gets in your intake you are screwed. i would however donate my time and run someone else's boat,,,,,, just saying.



How so?


Your "intake" is below the water line and this is NOT an oil slick that is 24" thick. The bulk (likely 80% or so) is just a light sheen on the surface. The water passages in any motor are just that passages. Worst case if you can run a cleaner to clean them out. For that matter you can mix miracle grow and run that through your passages. For the record, spray miracle grow on an oil spill and the MG will speed up the natural bacteria that will break down oil. Also, when motoring through it, your hull is displacing water to the sides, so your motor is inside a cleaner span of water anyway.

Besides, your boat has a go-devil on it and is air cooled, is it not? :?






All I'm saying is that if people want to help, here is a chance. If the local area is that important, then it shouldn't be that important if an outboard motor does fail. An outboard motor can be replaced. I was running my 14' flat on roads when Rita hit. My skeg was little to nothing, did I care, not one bit as I was helping people get to their homes or get out of their homes.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby quack_a_tack » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:01 pm

I really know nothin about the drilling itself. I do however know that this will have a negative effect on US citizens, the lower marshs, fish and ducks alng with other species will be very effected by this, and I also agree that there will be economic trouble for fisherman and shrimpers. All I can do personally is pray that something can be done to stop the spill soon or this summer will be the end of alot of businesses, and real estate owners on the gulf coast. I believe there will be alot of open marina spots this fall and next summer since I am sure fishing charters will take a huge hit. As was said in an earlier post "they put people on the moon, but can't figure out how to contain a situation here" in our own back yard.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby legends of the lower mars » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:23 pm

quack_a_tack wrote:I really know nothin about the drilling itself. I do however know that this will have a negative effect on US citizens, the lower marshs, fish and ducks alng with other species will be very effected by this, and I also agree that there will be economic trouble for fisherman and shrimpers. All I can do personally is pray that something can be done to stop the spill soon or this summer will be the end of alot of businesses, and real estate owners on the gulf coast. I believe there will be alot of open marina spots this fall and next summer since I am sure fishing charters will take a huge hit. As was said in an earlier post "they put people on the moo, but can't figure out how to contain a situation here" in our own back yard.



Yea, I've already had 3 trips call and cancel on me... :cry: Man, I can't believe this freakin crap is happening... :evil: All will be ruined and in the long run, nature will be the worst effected victim. Not trying to divert any attention from the 11 souls that lost thier life by any means; as my heart goes out to thier family and friends.

Freaking horrible, just horrible... I believe it's already too late............................................. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby mottlet » Sat May 01, 2010 1:49 am

Wow. Just wow.

Let's get something straight. BP didn't make gas to put in my truck out of the goodness of their hearts. I paid for it and they, like the other oil companies, got filthy stinkin' rich. Which is their right. I don't begrudge them, or anybody else an opportunity to fill a need and make some money. But there are risks. And now the piper will have to be paid. And you're damn skippy I'd be filing now if I were in the seafood business on the Gulf. Folks at the front of the line get served first and let's not forget that BP will most likely not pay a dime until the U.S. Supreme Court tells them to. I doubt very seriously that they'll be persuaded by whatever district court or circuit court gets to em first.

The whole thing just makes me sad. A very special place is about to get FUBR'd and it's just damn depressing.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Sat May 01, 2010 8:06 am

Well let's just say that I am by no way taking up for BP when I mention that without them we dont have fuel or oil for our vehicles at a decent price ; but without oil companies like BP exploring and producing in the Gulf we would not have fuel or oil for our vehicles at a decent price, period, end of discussion (unless one of you'll know a way to provide for the USA , Id love to hear it)!!! Believe me guys, I am absolutely sick over this, I have many many friends and family that could take a severe beaten from this spill; the same folks that lost everything during Katrina. Not to mention losing my favorite hunting and fishing grounds for maybe years!! I am a realist, though. We need them drilling, we need them producing, or we would pay $5 to $6 a gallon like our European friends and sending money to our enemies to get the products that run our country!! We stop domestic drilling we become reliant on foreign oil, and our enemies name the price. Also, your right, BP will fight this thing out to the end, leaving everyone suffering that lost their livelyhood from the spill. The answer? I wish I had one!!. This is the biggest catch 22 our country has ever faced. The federal government should have got involved a long time ago when the oil companies started drilling and producing deep water. They should have had the steps in place to fight this problem before it ever happened. I will be surprised to hear if Transocean was operating outside of the law when the accident occured. What a lot of people fail to mention is that all the new technology and advancements in drilling the oil companies are constantly working in un-charted territory with new unknown risk!! Deeper wells, deeper water, all to make more money and to quench our thirst for black gold!!
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby blgros1 » Sat May 01, 2010 10:32 am

well i understand your concept and do agree oil floats on the top of water yada yada, but your theory is more for a utopian society. Basically, it just doesnt happen like that. and yes i do have a go-devil, however i think i would be more inclined to use my boston whaler(if i was to help drag boom) than my go-devil, which is air cooled.

i just really hope there is some way we can reverse this situation so it doesn't have such a negative affect on our economy and ecology, but i honestly believe it's a little to late


MudHog wrote:
blgros1 wrote:i wouldn't dare run my boat in that oil slick. once that chit gets in your intake you are screwed. i would however donate my time and run someone else's boat,,,,,, just saying.



How so?


Your "intake" is below the water line and this is NOT an oil slick that is 24" thick. The bulk (likely 80% or so) is just a light sheen on the surface. The water passages in any motor are just that passages. Worst case if you can run a cleaner to clean them out. For that matter you can mix miracle grow and run that through your passages. For the record, spray miracle grow on an oil spill and the MG will speed up the natural bacteria that will break down oil. Also, when motoring through it, your hull is displacing water to the sides, so your motor is inside a cleaner span of water anyway.

Besides, your boat has a go-devil on it and is air cooled, is it not? :?






All I'm saying is that if people want to help, here is a chance. If the local area is that important, then it shouldn't be that important if an outboard motor does fail. An outboard motor can be replaced. I was running my 14' flat on roads when Rita hit. My skeg was little to nothing, did I care, not one bit as I was helping people get to their homes or get out of their homes.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Sat May 01, 2010 10:40 am

If the federal government has responsibility for a hurricane disaster, doesn't it have some responsibilty in this situation? Expecially a business so controlled by federal law? Where is the federal government? Why so slow in responding and doing anything to help? How many times was Barack Obama (and his administration) playing politics on mickey mouse agenda matters and playing golf and engaging in other recreation since this oil rig blew up? Why wasn't his (and other members of his administration) booty down there immediately to assess the damage, the needs of the Gulf Coast, the prospective environmental damage, mitigation and containment of the spill, etc. I have never seen such a potential large scale tragedy met with such apparent apathy from the outset in all of my days. It appears that the federal government is a day late and dollar short responding to this matter. They apparently were more interested in Arizona enforcing our immigration laws that the federal government simply won't. These priorities are FUBAR.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby Jeff » Sat May 01, 2010 10:43 am

Guys,

I really hope I am wrong but I think this will be as close to doomsday for the LA coast as can be. The oil will taint shrimp and bait, which will in turn taint fish. I think it will be at least a year before we can eat fish/seafood from the gulf. I think oystermen, shirmpers, guides, you name it are going to be SEVERLY impacted by this, not to mention the marsh itself. I think it's real real bad.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby Jeff » Sat May 01, 2010 10:44 am

Po Monk, I still think until/if the beautiful beaches of Destin are affected we won't get appathy from the US/government.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby OBDUCKS » Sat May 01, 2010 10:46 am

I have to wonder how much they are helping to hold down the costs at the pumps if what I heard today is true. Did BP post a 20 billion dollar profit last quarter? How much did they make last year 80 billion?
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby BAY KINGFISHER » Sat May 01, 2010 11:45 am

PML I was thinking the same thing this morning while drinking coffee on my front porch smelling the signs of the spill being carried to our coast by a SE wind.
Jeff, I cant say enough how sick I am about the potential for loss our area is experiencing. I was over in DIlberville last night for a little league game and watched and listened to the overhelming concerns of the fans. Some of the ladies teared up thinking about the impending impact to their family because her husband works at the shrimp factory, others chimed in with their concerns as well. This a lot of blue collar fishing families with grit, probably eat seafood 5 times a week kind of people. I get selfish thinking about the loss of trout and red fishing at places like my beloved Chandeleur Islands or Freemason, and Biloxi Marsh but reality hits me when I picture the tears rolling down that ladies face. or when Im coming back home last night and my son says " Dad, I guess we cant go fishing this weekend like we planned because of the oil, do you think we will ever get to go again?and what about the ducks dad, is the oil going to hit the spot where I shot at my first duck?"
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby mottlet » Sat May 01, 2010 12:12 pm

Political shots are going to be fired back and fourth over this whole deal, and I really don't care who comes out looking better or worse for this schitshow. Somebody, anybody, whether it's the feds, BP, or Bruce Willis and a ragtag group of drillers saving the world Armageddon style, needs to figure out a way to cap the damn thing. NOW. Let the political fallout come later. Because what we know for sure is that the politics will come. What we don't know, is how long this oil is gonna keep pumping into the ocean. Worry about stopping the flow, then we can figure out whose fault it is. Me thinks there's plenty of blame to go around.

I really, really hope we're all wrong about the future of coastal Louisiana. I'm really, really afraid that we're not. The time to cut levees and turn the river loose has long passed, but once again, politics got in the way. Too expensive. Too hard to relocate everything that might get wet. I'm certainly not saying that more wetlands would have negated this, or any other oil spill. But healthy ecosystems bounce back. Is this one healthy enough?

Pray for the winds to change boys. I'll take a bad wind every day next season for a strong northerly on the Gulf right now.
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Re: Oil Spill in Gulf

Postby legends of the lower mars » Sun May 02, 2010 8:43 am

Jeff wrote:Po Monk, I still think until/if the beautiful beaches of Destin are affected we won't get appathy from the US/government.


I agree Jeff. Government will drag thier feet until then... :evil:

And mottlet, I agree with your statement too. Hell, I'll take bad winds for the next 5 seasons just to get a north wind until they cap this damn monster!
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