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Postby gator » Wed Apr 09, 2003 6:46 pm

i'll kinda second what goose has said, just maybe not w/ the same style...i recently went up to hurricane lake hrc to run in their tests and went all by myself...showed up, ran the land test that first saturday and was sitting around thinking, "dang, what now, i got awhile before the water tests"...anyway, ended up meeting some fine folks from around there, talking to them for awhile, and riding some back roads after we went and watched the finished class run...now, these were some older gents and they could have just let me sit there all day and said nothing but they didn't...turns out, my dog had a lil trouble swinging on the second shot of the mark part of the test that day...my fault, i hadn't seen it coming and i rushed him...well, the second day, my dog got better and since then, w/ the advice of a few folks, he is really getting it now...i guess what i'm trying to say is through just a short stent w/ hrc and running in tests, i have met some great people, had some great advice sent my way and in a short while, i've got a better dog for it and he's getting better everday...on those same lines, this would have never happened if goosebruce hadn't given me some direction in all this...i was running around like a chicken w/ my head cut off, not knowing what to do next and he gave me a lil direction via the internet...i've even found a few folks that i am gonna start training w/ now and that will facilitate me and my dog's learning even more...500 pts or the grand, prolly not...not this time anyway...but i now have some goals of my own that i can strive for...that wouldn't have been possible if not for hrc or goosebruce (and i haven't even met the man)...so, yes, i'm hooked...i hope all you folks out there that are looking for something just not knowing what it is will go see a hunt test...heck, the more the merrier...and you just might find what you're looking for...gator
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Postby gator » Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:44 pm

i would like to add that i am in no way an expert on the subject of training or hrc...i have ran in two hunt test, goosebruce has been to a ton more...i just wanted to reiterate a few of his thoughts and add a few of my own..gator
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Postby dukdawgn » Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:46 pm

well, he's no guru, but he did say he'd stay'd at a Holiday Inn Express...

Gator, clear your schedule out, and come on up to train this weekend in Oxford. All my training buddies are running hunt tests this weekend, and I'm stuck here cutting my 3 foot tall front yard, and studying for tests, myself. Got some kewl water to go train on. Plus a good bit of rolling hills, too.
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Postby dukdawgn » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:03 am

check that, gator, I will be going hunt testin' after all. Maybe next time.
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Postby gator » Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:40 am

no problem...i talked to my girlfriend about going up to oxford for the weekend...figured it would be a good way to get her off my head for all these hunt test the last few weekends...turns out that we have a pharmacy school dinner this friday and some damn thing w/ them pill-pushers saturday night...so i guess it worked out...there will definitely be a next time...good luck this weekend...gator
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Postby NOHERE » Sat Apr 12, 2003 6:48 pm

Field trial April 18 19 20
3.5 miles south of Hernando on Hwy 51, look for the big white barn on the right.
Just as info, you have ukc hunt test, then you have akc hunt test, this one is akc field trial(the white coats). This is how a dog gets a title of FC/AFC.

The most noticeable difference in this one is the length of the retrieves,some could be 300 yards long. Blinds could be the same, pending on the lay of the land.
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Postby Dutch Dog » Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:07 pm

Hell I aint shooting ducks with a 7 mag so why would I want to do a 300 yard retrieve? That is just a LITTLE overkill don't you think. I guess that if your dog can do that then he can do whatever is feasably asked of him in a hunting situation.
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Postby goosebruce » Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:15 pm

Dutch..... ft's are a different venue.... FT's have a winner... and to select a winner, from so many fine dogs and good trainers, you HAVE to incrediblely difficult tasks for the dogs. You go watch a finished test.... and watch 30 dogs run what is a difficult task... and you'll see a certain number, maybe 5, maybe 25, SMOKE that test... No way you could pick a winner like that... Take those dogs, and try to come up with a winner, in a couple days... no way. Now make it 70 dogs... Now make it people all over the country, trying to win any given weekend... Riduclous? No... we all benefit from their sport.. the bloodlines, the training, everything we have, is because of field trials. The average ft test 25 years ago would resemble a finished test today, with the blinds run seprate from the marks... the dogs and the training have gotten that much better... and competiton makes things better. So the better the dogs, the more outlandish the tests get, the better the dogs and so on. Thats why we have the dogs we have today.
A lot of ft folks look down on hunting dogs, and ht's... and a lot of ht folks think white coats are silly.... They are inevitably weaved into each other, and neither would be where it is if it wasn't for the other. Any dog game where people teach their dog something, and have fun doing it, is worthwhile to watch, and learn from. The more difficult the tasks, the more you can learn.
And 300 yards is not an unusual distance in a ricefield duck hunt at all.... do all dogs need to be able to mark and handle to 300 yards? Nope... but it sure is kick ass. hehe. travis
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Postby Dutch Dog » Sat Apr 12, 2003 7:58 pm

good answer. no, Great answer thanks goose.
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Postby NOHERE » Sun Apr 13, 2003 5:52 pm

No, your not shoot'in with a 7mm mag...your shoot'in steel, which after a 40 yard shot, he will fly off crippled at land gut shot 300 yards away :lol:

Come give it a look, its worth it

You know when it comes to working dogs, horses,nascar racing,duck hunting, etc, you can take it as far as you want and do it to its highest degree...pending on how deep ones pocket is$$$$
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Postby dukdawgn » Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:27 pm

goose is correct (bad as I hate to admit it). Neither organization would have prosper'd the way they have, if it wasn't for a semi-relationship, or counter-workings, with the other. HRC folks that want a high-rolling dog can grab one from an FC/AFC line, and AKC folks that want a line of dogs bred to do things such as swing with a gun, hunt off of stumps and out of stick blinds, etc, can grab a dog from a GRHRCH or HRCH.

It all depends on whether you chose to let your duk-buddy be rewarded for great work, or let him be rewarded for being king of the hill.

Personally, I prefer the HRC. May not see any marks past 200 yards, but you will see a lot more hunting scenario....
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Postby goosebruce » Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:50 pm

I'm always right josh.... you just only understand it sometimes! :lol: travis

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