Deer Beagles

[MSDuckmen]

For once, I agree with you duckman. An old doe is one of the most challenging game animals there is. I have always enjoyed being able to harvest an old doe. I believe her keen sense of awareness and stealthy attitude presents a significant challenge. I swear, when I know I'm about to get a shot at a good sized doe, my heart races like a 180"er is standing in front of me.

I'm still in total disagreement about your views of "managing" your deer herd. But, everyone has their own views and has to do what they feel is right. As for me, I will continue to shoot a lot of does, cull bucks, and pass on the ones i feel have not met their potential development. I think this is the part of deer hunting I love so much. I love being able to watch deer grow and wonder what they will be like next year. Big racks are one thing, but to be able to confidently say that you had an impact on helping a mature deer develop the way he has through timber management, food plots, mineral licks, etc. is worth all the time and effort I put in to it each year.

For Once you agree.. Oh come on WM you have agreed more than your willing to admit.
We can disagree on Management that is fine, no one thinks the same all the time. I would rather have a man come in with a good 6 or 8 point than nothing at all because of some club restriction. After all it is called hunting.
I'll pat them on the back and say you are the man.... Trophy's are in the eyes of the boholder. I have no problem with anyone killing anything if they intend to use it for substance. It is the method that many times bothers me in how they achieve the kill. The heritage was created for all to enjoy and if a man gets pleasure from a small deer then that is what the heritage was put there for. Nothing wrong with those that choose to kill only old mature bucks. I think it is great leaves more for those that choose to shoot the smaller ones.
Our club has taken over two hundred in three years. Yet our game cameras are getting very nice bucks constantly and our food plots are being destroyed by the deer. Do you really think leaving a few medium size bucks is going to make a difference on 200 and 300 tracks of land?
I go for the camp social, the getting to the outdoors, and the love of the chase. Nothing better than a stringer of ducks in the morning and a deer after lunch. That WM is what it is all about, the antlers or nothing but bragging rights to me. Yes I love to shoot big deer and I'm satisfied when I do. I also get just as much enjoyment out of being in the skinning shed helping a man skin his four point because it meant something to him. The more primative the surroundings the better.
I have spent the last 7 weekends at camp building, disc, cutting, scouting, repairing waders decoy lines, and planting. It is a way of life, not a passtime for some. Not all people reach that level, not all want to.

You can see me anyway you want as most of you do anyway. The bottomline is I walk the walk that I talk. Most don't even come close.

Excuse me why I pat myself on the back...

[Jeff]

Guys, I have no dog in this battle (pun intended), I try and stay out of internet pissing matches, as even if you win what all have you won?
However I think we make a BIG if not HUGE mistake by arguing amongst ourselves. Are we not all out to hunt and enjoy the outdoors? Are there not Tens of thousands of people that think that what we love to do should be outlawed? The first chink in the armor is us arguing over what kind of hunting is acceptable. We as hunters need to ban together and support each other, this infighting will get us in big trouble down the road.

[MSDuckmen]

Guys, I have no dog in this battle (pun intended), I try and stay out of internet pissing matches, as even if you win what all have you won?
However I think we make a BIG if not HUGE mistake by arguing amongst ourselves. Are we not all out to hunt and enjoy the outdoors?

I tend to agree with you on this Jeff I however did not once resort to name calling or questioning anyones ability to hunt. What I did was bring to the attention the total lack of ethical, moral, civil responsibilities that some demonstrate with remarks on this forum.
I will never stop protecting and or calling out behavior that is out of line when it is NOT apparant that it is done under the guise of humor.
You let it go long enough it becomes the norm. There is enough wrong in the norm now without adding to it. Others need to know that we don't all think that way.

Better tommorrow.

[Jeff]

Dan, I haven't read but a few posts on this thread as it's just too long and as I said, there is no such thing as winning an internet pissing match. I have long respected both you and your opinion. I would venture to say that without reading until proven otherwise our opinoins would be very simmilar. When I typed my post it was written without regard to who said what, just that we do hunting a disservice when we try and alienate a certain faction of our hunting population, so long as how they are hunting is completely legal.

[Greenhead22]

Damn doe killers !!!

I guess I was brought up a little different than most. My first deer was a doe when I was ten yrs old, and it's the first and last doe I'll ever kill. My dad taught me to come up as a buck hunter, not some meat hunter that kills a doe everyday. You can kill a doe anyday of the week, and I wouldn't get any satisfaction of doing that. The overkilling of does in the delta has tremendously hurt our #'s, and we need every doe we see in the woods to live. I do believe that an old doe is sharp as a tack, had one lock in on the tree I was in, started at the base of the tree and followed it all the way up to the 25 ft where I was sitting my climbing stand, damn heifer .

As for running deer with dogs, my dad loves it with a passion, would rather do it than anything else. I, however, prefer still hunting, and have no probs getting out of the stand when I here the dogs. I say this even though my first buck was in overdrive with a pack of dogs on his butt.

I know a man that divorced his wife over his deer dogs, good looking wife I might add. They were right in the middle of sex one night when he heard his dogs jump a deer on the hill. He stopped, got out of the bed and walked out on the front porch to listen to the race.

[waterfowlwidowmaker]

Duckman, I can promise you arn't the only one "walking that line" and "living the lifestyle" My goup of hunting partners and I definatly live the lifestyle. Every extra minute and every extra dollar goes towards our "lifestyle". Its what we do. Just because we maybe of the younger generation does not mean our love for the sport and the "heritage" is any less. The only thing our age generation gap has to do with anything is the fact that we still have more to learn and to experience.

[chopper30]

The only thing our age generation gap has to do with anything is the fact that we still have more to learn and to experience.

...and less money! I'm broke!!!! WW keeps coming up with other cost we incure and I keep having to fork over money! Damn widowmaker, cut me some slack!

[Deagle]

MORNIN' LADIES

[Chuckle12]

[waterfowlwidowmaker]

The only thing our age generation gap has to do with anything is the fact that we still have more to learn and to experience.

...and less money! I'm broke!!!! WW keeps coming up with other cost we incure and I keep having to fork over money! Damn widowmaker, cut me some slack!

You never pay up anyway, so what difference does it make?

[chopper30]

I'm good for it, cough jackasss cough

You still owe me for that hooker downtown last weekend! So we're even!

[teul2]

I thought they cleaned up Farish St.

[DUCKAHOLIC]

Hey lets all hug and go kill some parrots, or hawks or little white bunnies or somethin...................

[waterfowlwidowmaker]

I'm good for it, cough jackasss cough

You still owe me for that hooker downtown last weekend! So we're even!

I'm not paying for that heifer to polish your nob. I've always herd you say big girls need lovin too, but I didn't think you meant the ones that would go a deuce and a half.

[Deagle]

Nothing wrong with big girls. I like certain things myself, like badmitton and dynamite, high self esteem and low tooth count, rough sex and turnip greens, republicans and public assistance, fluffy kittens and assless chaps. But hey, everybody got their preferences. Right?