Ole Miss NOA

[mossyisland]

Some more really good insight Stacy! Some people you tell this stuff to and they are like "that doesn't happen at my school!" Bull Crap! It happens at every one of them. Some are just better at it than others.

[stang67]

So you really believe that OMU is charged with the most significant slate of allegations pf my lifetime for doing the same thing as other schools? You don't think OM is a little unique, paying kids $15k for just a COMMITMENT for Pete's sake? I don't believe that is common. As SJ mentioned, the paying's supposed to come later. $$ earlier than normal (for commitments, de commitments, visits, spurned visits) has been rumored for awhile. if the payments at that stage exceeded what's normal, I have no doubt the benefits later on we're extraordinary.

[billyho]

Probably more facts in mossy islands post than anything I've read about this whole ordeal. Good stuff. I only disagree with the fact that Hugh knew. And stang if you think 15K is big bucks for a commitment you have lost your mind! That's pocket change compared to other stories I've heard. It's BIG money, and the sad thing is that BIG money is a drop in the bucket compared to what the schools are making off the kids

[stang67]

So you really believe that OMU is charged with the most significant slate of allegations pf my lifetime for doing the same thing as other schools? You don't think OM is a little unique, paying kids $15k for just a COMMITMENT for Pete's sake? I don't believe that is common. As SJ mentioned, the paying's supposed to come later. $$ earlier than normal (for commitments, de commitments, visits, spurned visits) has been rumored for awhile. if the payments at that stage exceeded what's normal, I have no doubt the benefits later on we're extraordinary.

[mossyisland]

So you really believe that OMU is charged with the most significant slate of allegations pf my lifetime for doing the same thing as other schools? You don't think OM is a little unique, paying kids $15k for just a COMMITMENT for Pete's sake? I don't believe that is common. As SJ mentioned, the paying's supposed to come later. $$ earlier than normal (for commitments, de commitments, visits, spurned visits) has been rumored for awhile. if the payments at that stage exceeded what's normal, I have no doubt the benefits later on we're extraordinary.

Don't be fan of any particular school for 5 minutes. Ole Miss did exactly what is going on everyday at all SEC schools. They just did it dumb and sloppy.

This is how stupid Ole Miss is. They cheated trying to get Leo, without any cover(just an asst. coach and booster), while NCAA investigators are on campus. They should get the death penalty for being idiots.


The total of inducements is 37,000. I promise you and I am not just throwing it out there, but that is pocket change.

There are kids that get money from other schools all the time that end up at other schools on signing day. COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS DIRTY!

Seven on Seven football is taking college football cheating to college basketball cheating levels.

[stang67]

You avoided my question.

I'm telling you. The NCAA is pissed about arrogance and there's enough smoke about 7-figure (extraordinary) payrolls to make them believe it. They are listing the mere BS in the NOA that they have proof about. It so happens with the cureent penalty structure, that that's all they need to hammer UOM. Don't believe for a second that the NOA stuff is more than the tip of the iceberg. You keep saying "everybody cheats," and I'm not sure the NCAA would even disagree. They think they're concentrating on the worst offenders.

[mshunter77]

First off I do beleive Freeze knew about it and 95% of this is his fault. Why do I think he knew? Well if he is willing to give Tunsils little brother a scholarship knowing he would never step on the field, what is to keep him from doing more. As stated in an earlier post you notice your star left tackle driving loaner cars for 6 months as well. Why is Freeze to blame for most of this? 1.). I think he was involved. 2). He ran his mouth/twitter too much. Had he not immediately jumped out and publicaly tried to shame Miller then he probably never turns on them. 3). Him and Bjork publicaly lied about what was in the first notice of allegations. Add that in to lying to recruits about the first NOA and does that sound like a man of such high and outstanding moral character? Not to me.

And for the Leo Lewis tapes they won't make a bit of difference. We have already seen that with the Cam Newton deal and I saw somewhere that they are not sure it is even authentic recordings.

[bigwater]

The speed limit sign read 70 mph. Most everyone was running between 75-80. So we were all guilty of speeding.

But then this one car came by /.
A bright red slick sports car .
This car came up on you so quick like that you never even knew it was there . And then boom it was gone. And your like damn that sombiatch musta been doing 120.. And you say to yourself
He gonna get a ticket for speeding . Something we're all doing

[stang67]

The speed limit sign read 70 mph. Most everyone was running between 75-80. So we were all guilty of speeding.

But then this one car came by /.
A bright red slick sports car .
This car came up on you so quick like that you never even knew it was there . And then boom it was gone. And your like damn that sombiatch musta been doing 120.. And you say to yourself
He gonna get a ticket for speeding . Something we're all doing

And he's gonna go nuclear with tapes of guys at the bar talking about speeding.

[mossyisland]

Here is where I think your wrong about Freeze knowing. In the first couple of meetings with investigators, Let's just say the investigators left with attitude they were going to find things wrong in the program. Freeze was very adiment there was no cheating going on. Call it arrogance, ignorance, or defiance. I think he didn't know. There is no way you send out a tweet to the world asking for allegations and stand toe to toe with NCAA and tell them to find issues.

[JaMak84]

Here is where I think your wrong about Freeze knowing. In the first couple of meetings with investigators, Let's just say the investigators left with attitude they were going to find things wrong in the program. Freeze was very adiment there was no cheating going on. Call it arrogance, ignorance, or defiance. I think he didn't know. There is no way you send out a tweet to the world asking for allegations and stand toe to toe with NCAA and tell them to find issues.

Really? I know a fella that once finger wagged a congressional hearing stating he'd never taken steroids even though he knew he'd failed a drug test 2 weeks prior. C'mon man! Freeze knew. Think Col. Jessep from A Few Good Men.

[stang67]

Here is where I think your wrong about Freeze knowing. In the first couple of meetings with investigators, Let's just say the investigators left with attitude they were going to find things wrong in the program. Freeze was very adiment there was no cheating going on. Call it arrogance, ignorance, or defiance. I think he didn't know. There is no way you send out a tweet to the world asking for allegations and stand toe to toe with NCAA and tell them to find issues.

So his defense is "I'm the dumbest human being alive." Bold strategy. Lol. It's also funny that you keep asking us to try to be unbiased. It would be hard to find somebody toting more water for Freeze anywhere on the web. I admire your allegiance -- I know I'd never have it for an MSU coach is such a position.

I also want to remind folks that Farrar was on staff with Freeze his first stint at OMU. So was Harris, who was named throughout rev 1 of the NOA. Harris and Kiffin also coached at ASU. Freeze knew all about these guys' "strengths" as football coaches.

A question: by saying that a large portion of the cheating was done by a connected group of boosters that ran on autopilot with minimal direction or knowledge from the staff, are you admitting to -- I don't know the word -- a #network being in place ?

And since I'm bored in another airport terminal... It is so typically pathetic and obsessive for UOM homers to blame MSU. Tunsil admitted on national freaking TV that there were established pay for play occurring. And you really want to make it out to be LL's fault? I'm telling you all, don't concentrate so much on the individual items in the NOA. Think of those as symbols or examples that the NCAA thought would be best to list. They could've used other examples, more examples maybe, but the result wouldn't be any different. Their case is so solid with what they have, why dilute with more allegations that wouldn't change the penalties?

[hntrpat1]

You ole miss people kill me of course the beaver knew. Hell he has been charged with being WITH A BOOSTER AND A RECRUIT at the same time. DUHHHHH

[stang67]

Well yeah. He was involved in THAT level-one, but he didn't know about any of the others.

And in the least surprising news of the day, OMU gives the middle finger to a FOI request for a copy of the NOA. As a red blooded conservative, I expect more transparency from a publically funded institution. Surely they aren't using tax dollars to pay the external counsel that currently possesses the document, across state lines of course. You guys must be so proud.

[hntrpat1]

Oh and the idiot that was arrested for theft he robbed the booster that he was living with stole 12 of his guns. I guess ol miss can get another feel good $#!+ movie out of this too