got to love Game Wardens

[Seymore]

After reading some more of your posts I'm going o change my opinion about fighting it and say just pay the ticket. I thought everybody pretty much knew to check you gun with 2 3/4 because that is what the law says and what the man will bring when he checks you. You admitted the choke was the wrong size and that confirms to me it wasn't a factory coke made for that gun and model. Just because it works with the ammo you have isn't what the law says. Anybody can make a choke to fit a gun for that only 2 3 inch shells will fit. That's not the standard. I must worked with 2 3/4.

I know it sucks but that's the way I see it. I don't know anything about one law enforcement agency being ticked at the other but I guess it could happen. I saw a house burn to the ground once because two fire departments bickered over who had authority.

I have never heard of a choke wearing down. I guess if somebody makes their own the wood could sand down but factory stuff is either meal or hard plastic.

Wingman, I don't know what to say about loving another Msducker. I'm praying for you man.

[Wingman]

Plug. Plug. Where'd you get choke?

I love you, too.

[SkippyJ]

I certainly dont know the specifics or if that was the case

Holy God!!! I just dropped my drink!!!

[Seymore]

Plug. Plug. Where'd you get choke?

I love you, too.

I don't know why I keep writing choke. Been a long week.

[Blake Williamson]

Plug. Plug. Where'd you get choke?

I love you, too.

A little to much loven going on up in here.......

[chevy01234]

Hello so this season coming up is going to be truly my rookie year at waterfowl hunting. So I'm looking for any good pointers/tips... Anything from when to call how often to call how to set my decoys up what decoys to put out how many decoys to put out... What kind of ducks like to hangout with each other... Any help would be a great help. I've hunted with friends but they did all the calling and set the decoys out and what not I was just there to shot at the ducks and try to help kill some ducks. I'm truly a good guy not looking for people's honey holes and anything like that. I serve in our great military I've been in sense 08. I was introduced to this great hunt by a buddy a couple years ago but he transferred and now I'm on my own.

File this whole deal under the "now you know" and move on. It shouldn't negatively effect you any more than you ALLOW it too! Learn from it and accept that the law is the law and you unfortunately, unknowingly broke it. Yes, it was a mistake. Yes, you are guilty of hunting with a gun that holds more than 2 shells in the plugged magazine. No, the length of the shells you have on hand is not relevant to the ticket if you think about it and go by whats written in black and white. If I had cocaine but absolutely no intentions of snorting it on my boat when you pulled up, would you let me go with a warning? Extreme example, I know, but both against the law!


You are in the CG, so you do Interdiction right? Whats the first thing folks doing something wrong or are in possession of something illegal on the water do? They throw it overboard! Now with that in mind and leaving behind the "i'm a good guy" mentality, what is to keep that officer from thinking you didn't chunk a box of 2 3/4" shells overboard right before he pulled up? They wouldn't exactly be floating around!

There is always officer discretion but who knows, he could of been burned by giving someone a break on it before.

Everyone makes mistakes, got to learn from it and move on!

[gps4]

just askin....

1) did both wardens actually see three shells being loaded into the magazine?

2) was the loading with three shells or any thing else about the check recorded on a dash cam or any recording device?

3) did the warden who checked the gun the first time, actually measure the shells he used?

4) did the warden who checked the gun the first time, actually measure the shells used by the second warden?

5) The first three shells were reloads, right?

6) Were the second three shells factory loads or reloads, and how do you know?

5) was the gun broken down to show either wardens the plug?

6) was the gun confiscated and submitted to the evidence vault for production at trial?

7) was each and every shell loaded into the gun submitted to the evidence vault for holding until the trial date? (chain of custody issue)

8 if not, is the second warden going to bring the exact three shells he used to court at the hearing date? (chain of custody issue)

9) how do you know the warden is going to bring the EXACT SAME three shells? (chain of custody issue)

10) the gun is going to be brought to the hearing to show that the magazine CANNOT HOLD more than two 2-3/4" shells, right?

[Down South Gratton]

So I'm going to pay the ticket because I was illegal when checked with 2 3/4 inch shells... I understand where people are coming from with I could use 2 3/4 shells but like I said before there were none on the boat and the GW fully checked every compartment on the boat and everything else and he knew we didn't have any 2 3/4 size ammo on the boat. I'm also not a Jack booty to knowing hunt with an illegal gun... I don't know how I would be able to write someone a ticket for breaking the law if I was knowing breaking the law on my off time... IM NOT TYPE OF PERSON!!! I have also not found any where it says you must check your gun with 2 3/4 shells before you go hunting if you don't intend on using that size of shell... I checked my gun at home with the ammo I was using and checked out so I thought I was good to go.

[Down South Gratton]

just askin....

1) did both wardens actually see three shells being loaded into the magazine?
The first time yes they both watched I believe

2) was the loading with three shells or any thing else about the check recorded on a dash cam or any recording device?
Yes I had my go pro recording on the boat but it couldn't see anything and couldn't hear much

3) did the warden who checked the gun the first time, actually measure the shells he used?
Not that I saw

4) did the warden who checked the gun the first time, actually measure the shells used by the second warden?
Not that I saw

5) The first three shells were reloads, right?
No they were store bought

6) Were the second three shells factory loads or reloads, and how do you know?
I'm not sure about shells the officer used

5) was the gun broken down to show either wardens the plug?
No I didn't think about that till to late

6) was the gun confiscated and submitted to the evidence vault for production at trial?
No they gave it back but did take my birds

7) was each and every shell loaded into the gun submitted to the evidence vault for holding until the trial date? (chain of custody issue)
No my ammo was give back and they kept there's also

8 if not, is the second warden going to bring the exact three shells he used to court at the hearing date? (chain of custody issue)
Not sure about that

9) how do you know the warden is going to bring the EXACT SAME three shells? (chain of custody issue)
I don't

10) the gun is going to be brought to the hearing to show that the magazine CANNOT HOLD more than two 2-3/4" shells, right?

I'm sure if I'm going to court now

[MudHog]

So I'm going to pay the ticket because I was illegal when checked with 2 3/4 inch shells... I understand where people are coming from with I could use 2 3/4 shells but like I said before there were none on the boat and the GW fully checked every compartment on the boat and everything else and he knew we didn't have any 2 3/4 size ammo on the boat. I'm also not a Jack booty to knowing hunt with an illegal gun... I don't know how I would be able to write someone a ticket for breaking the law if I was knowing breaking the law on my off time... IM NOT TYPE OF PERSON!!! I have also not found any where it says you must check your gun with 2 3/4 shells before you go hunting if you don't intend on using that size of shell... I checked my gun at home with the ammo I was using and checked out so I thought I was good to go.

I seriously doubt he was checking for "2-3/4" shells specifically. I would venture to say he was checking for lead shot or over the limit birds stowed in compartments.


Lets do the math here.

Legal 3-1/2" shotgun with factory plug: 2 - 3-1/2" shells is 7" long

3 - 3-1/2" shells is 10-1/2" long / 3 - 3" shells is 9" long / 3 - 2-3/4" shells are 8-1/4" long

Even with a shotgun chambered 3-1/2", there is no way possible (with a factory plug) that you could load a third 2-3/4" shell. Load being get the third sell past the lock to hold the shell in place. Now, you could with a 2-1/2" shell being (3) 2-1/2" shells is 7-1/2", but you could not with a 2-3/4" shell. So the GW carrying 2-3/4" shells is likely because he doesn't want to carry the extra weight of 3" or 3-1/2". Think of a pocket with a bunch of loose change.



Story isn't adding up every way you look at it.

[Greenhead22]

Shotgun shell length varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. I've seen some 3.5" vary up to a 1/4". Not all 2 3/4" shells measure 2 3/4" either. It's a 50/50 scenario.

[novacaine]

Come on duck season!

[Wingman]

This one time.......at duck camp........

[Down South Gratton]

Shotgun shell length varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. I've seen some 3.5" vary up to a 1/4". Not all 2 3/4" shells measure 2 3/4" either. It's a 50/50 scenario.

I measured my 3" shells = 2 3/4"

I measured some 2 3/4" shells = 2 1/2"

So I agree that different shells could be different sizes. I used royal blue if you don't believe me go buy some a check... That's what I had to do to check 2 3/4" shells because I don't use that size ammo.

[jacksbuddy]

This one time.......at duck camp........

How many of us on here are old enough to hear this story?