Take Me Back Tuesday: GLOBAL WARMING CORRAL

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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:05 am

Well boys, stand back and let me jump back in here with a 10 parargraph retort, complete with foot notes and a lengthy cut and paste article ............NOT!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Do any of you guys EVER recall it being in the mid-90s in August in MS??? Something's up and definately amiss. I ain't supposed to be sweating outside in August. :wink:
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:14 pm

LONDON (Reuters) - Bank of America said it has formed a joint venture to obtain shares in Climate Exchange PLC (CLE) in return for buying carbon emissions permits issued under the Chicago Climate Exchange, owned by CLE.

BofA will get up to $25 million worth of shares in CLE, depending on the joint venture revenues. In the meantime it has committed to buying 500,000 tonnes of carbon offsets over three years, it said in a statement on Wednesday.

BofA said in March it would invest $20 billion over the next 10 years in environmental markets, which are expected to grow as governments lay down tougher rules to curb emissions of the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

Under the joint venture the bank would also market Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) carbon offsets to its customers when BofA launches an emissions trading operation later this year.

"Bank of America will play an active role in the growing emission trading industry through our membership and investment in the exchange," Richie Prager, the bank's head of global rates, currencies and commodities, said.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:26 pm

NEW YORK (Reuters) - An across-the-board downgrading of U.S. coal company stocks by a Citigroup Inc. analyst is the latest victory in a fight against plans for new coal-fired power plants, environmentalists said.

Citigroup analyst John Hill downgraded coal company stocks across the board in a report this week, saying that expected U.S. greenhouse gas regulations on coal, which emits more of the main heat-trapping gas carbon dioxide than any other fuel, paint a bleak outlook for the sector.

Downward pressure on stock prices by a current U.S. coal oversupply could last for more than a year, he wrote. If that happens it could coincide with 2008 presidential campaign politics, in which a national plan to limit greenhouse emissions is expected to figure prominently.

"Election politics are likely to turn progressively more bestial for coal," Hill wrote. Candidates from both major parties favor putting national limits on greenhouse gases.

Environmentalists, who have recently helped block plans for coal plants, seized on the comments as an indication of harder times ahead for companies that produce the fuel.

"This is a clear, forceful signal from Wall Street that the coal industry is failing to innovate in addressing the urgent problem of global warming," Vicky Patton, a lawyer for Environmental Defense, wrote in an e-mail.

The Department of Energy says utilities plan to build about 150 coal-fired power plants. But coal companies have recently suffered a string of bad news from the top three most populous U.S. states.

California passed a global-warming law halting the building of coal-fired plants, as well as a ban on imports of power generated in other states that does not meet emissions standards.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:30 pm

Florida Governor Signs Three Climate Change Related Executive Orders

On July 13, 2007, Florida Governor Charlie Crist signed three climate change related executive orders. EO 07-126 sets GHG emission reduction targets for state agencies and departments of 10 percent below current levels by 2012, 25 percent below by 2017, and 40 percent below by 2025. The order adopts the U.S. Green Building Council’s LEED standards for all new state government facilities and all existing buildings owned by the Department of Management Services. EO 07-126 requires state-owned vehicles to be more fuel efficient and to use ethanol and biodiesel fuels when available. EO 07-127 sets statewide GHG emission reduction targets of 2000 levels by 2017, 1990 levels by 2025, and 80% below 1990 levels by 2050. The order directs the Florida Secretary of Environmental Protection to immediately develop rules to adopt the California motor vehicle GHG emission standards. The Florida Energy Code for Building Construction will be revised to increase the energy performance of new construction by at least 15 percent from the 2007 Energy Code. EO 07-127 requests that the Florida Public Service Commission initiate rulemaking to i. require that utilities produce at least 20 percent of their electricity from renewable sources and ii. to authorize statewide net metering. Executive Order 07-128 creates the Florida Governor’s Action Team on Energy and Climate Change to develop an Energy and Climate Change Action Plan to recommend ways to meet the new GHG reduction targets.
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Postby cwink » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:39 pm

Why is it that all the people whining about Global Warming are doing from an Air Conditioned office.. I never hear of a Roofer or Highway worker complaining about it..

If Global warming is such a threat, then explain to me why evernight when I watch the news the Record High temp is from like 1930... And if you say it is a gradual warming of the earth that is going to cause huge weather related problems.. Then why are the top 5 US weather related trajedies dated 1900 or earlier? I just don't buy it..
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:42 pm

Florida Governor Signs Three Climate Change Related Executive Orders

On July 13, 2007, Florida Governor Charlie Crist signed three climate change related executive orders. EO 07-126 sets GHG emission reduction targets for state agencies and departments of 10 percent below current levels by 2012, 25 percent below by 2017, and 40 percent below by 2025. The order adopts the U.S. Green Building Council’s LEED standards for all new state government facilities and all existing buildings owned by the Department of Management Services. EO 07-126 requires state-owned vehicles to be more fuel efficient and to use ethanol and biodiesel fuels when available. EO 07-127 sets statewide GHG emission reduction targets of 2000 levels by 2017, 1990 levels by 2025, and 80% below 1990 levels by 2050. The order directs the Florida Secretary of Environmental Protection to immediately develop rules to adopt the California motor vehicle GHG emission standards. The Florida Energy Code for Building Construction will be revised to increase the energy performance of new construction by at least 15 percent from the 2007 Energy Code. EO 07-127 requests that the Florida Public Service Commission initiate rulemaking to i. require that utilities produce at least 20 percent of their electricity from renewable sources and ii. to authorize statewide net metering. Executive Order 07-128 creates the Florida Governor’s Action Team on Energy and Climate Change to develop an Energy and Climate Change Action Plan to recommend ways to meet the new GHG reduction targets.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:46 pm

Take it from the top...Page one of this thread and read every post I have made...This is about the concentration of CO2 in the air...Rising global AVERAGE temperatures are the most obvious and first confirmed symptom but there are many others (like the chemical composition of the ocean) and it is the others that really concern me.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:03 pm

USDA STUDY SHOWS POSION IVY MORE POTENT

A study by USDA plant physiologist Louis Ziska shows that increased CO2 concentrations leads to more potent poison ivy. Ziska exposed one group of poision ivy plants to 300 PPM CO2, roughly the level found in Earth's air in the 1950s, and anotehr group of plants to 400 PPM, the amount found in our air today. After 8 months, leaf size, stem length, wwight and oil content were 50%-75% higher than plants exposed to the 1950s conditions.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:08 pm

BRITISH SCIENTISTS DEBUNK NATURAL PHENOMENOM THEORY

A team of British scientists foudn that total solar radiation from the sun peaked in 1985. meaning that the solar radiation hitting the Earth has decreased during the same time period that average global temperatures have increased. "The sun did a U turn around 1985 but the temperatures kept on rising," said Mike Lockwood, a solar physicist at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory. "Everythign on the sun that could have affected warming on Earth has gone in the wrong direction, yet we have still had warming."
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:12 pm

EXXON MOBIL CONTINUES TO FUND CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL

Exxon Mobil donated $2.1MM in 2006 to 41 different organizations that Greenpeace calls "prominent climate change denial organizations". This follows a January report by the Union of Concerned Scientists that found Exxon Mobil had donated $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to fund 43 small nonprofit groups that question the science behind global warming.
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Postby cwink » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:16 pm

Hammer wrote:EXXON MOBIL CONTINUES TO FUND CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL

Exxon Mobil donated $2.1MM in 2006 to 41 different organizations that Greenpeace calls "prominent climate change denial organizations". This follows a January report by the Union of Concerned Scientists that found Exxon Mobil had donated $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to fund 43 small nonprofit groups that question the science behind global warming.


Anybody else on here want to form a Climate Change Denial Org. Maybe we can get Exxon to send us some money??
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:27 pm

READ EM & WEEP BOYS...THE CARDS CONTINUE TO GO AGAINST YOU...

From honeybees to poison ivy, from ocean chemistry to the board rooms of corporate America, from Dupont, GE and GM to the US Supreme Court,
the limb you have put yourself on continues to weaken by the day, the hour, the minute as more and more people from across the spectrum of American society wake up and smell the coffeee....I have debunked every argument you have made with SCIENCE- you have given me opinion, rhetoric and BS.

I again claim SCOREBOARD...You will again protest and the thread will rage on towards MS DUCKS immortality...Keep your BS coming- I enjoy the opportunity to counter your BS with SCIENCE.

I will have the ultimate SCOREBOARD experience when the Congress passes mandatory greenhouse gas emissions regulations. Only then will I drop this and only if the MS DUCKS record has been achieved.

As I head back to the salt mines, I remind you that I shall return.
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Postby Hammer » Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:30 pm

Funny Winky unless you own Exxon Mobil stock...Turns out there are some discrepancies in their SEC filing reports and their shareholder reports...It is just a matter of time before Exxon's funding these efforts will result in a big fat lawsuit and you can bet it will be in a venue where Boss Hog Barbour cant ram so called "tort reform" down people's throats. Go Dicky Scruggs Go.
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:14 pm

"I remind you that I shall return."

That sounds like a threat. :lol:
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