What do y'all think of Trump?

[420 racin]

Please tell me, i have been wondering this for a while..How Exactly did the Russians help Trump win the White House. I for one did not have a Russian in the polling Booth with me pushing the buttons or holding a gun to my head. Please tell me how they made Trump win.
So Russia MAY have hacked the DNC by tricking Podesta with some Spoofing emails, he's a damn fool to fall for it then, his stupidity should not be anyone else fault. But how's that different from the Obama White House spying on the Trump Campaign, isn't that "meddling" in the election? I just think this Russia thing is just a way for the Dems to deflect the real reason they lost the election, because people don't want what they are selling. Maybe people in the big cities and on the left and right coast do, but main street and Middle America doesn't want, we adamantly reject it.

[Wildfowler]

Senator McCain had been the chief sponsor of the McCain-Feingold Act and called the Citizens United decision, which overturned portions of the Act, one of the “worst decisions I have ever seen.”

Oh so I see, McCain told the IRS to audit these "non profits" that were donating money to elections outside of the legal parameters until they were defunct, and that makes him a communist?

A COMMUNIST?

It makes him one of the few Republicans who tried to stand up for ANY CHANCE that the 1% didn't take total control of the political election system you idiot.

Man I just need to go somewhere else and talk to people. You guys are too fkin stupid to have a real conversation with.

No. This is all about weaponizing the IRS to harass one side of the political isle that McCain didn’t agree with and it ain’t the dems. Show me where I’m wrong?

I already told you I’m not an idiot. What’s with the personal attacks?

If I am misinformed about something then please show me where I’m wrong. I’ve already shown you that I’m a reasonable person. I have pointed out deficiencies within the Trump administration. I’m not resorting to personal attacks simply because I don’t agree with you. How the Hell do you expect to have a “real conversation” with someone who is constantly attacking you?

[YoBenny]

Well that's exactly what the special counsel is working to put a creditable finger on, and they have found enough along the way to keep digging. Here are a few things we know.

Trump’s national security advisor, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russians

Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort is under indictment for charges including conspiracy to launder money and making false statements

Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, failed to disclose meetings with Russians

All of this of course could be absolutely nothing. They might let Cohen walk....

Nothing going on ---- just buying a few cases of good vodka that's all...........

[davidees]

Senator McCain had been the chief sponsor of the McCain-Feingold Act and called the Citizens United decision, which overturned portions of the Act, one of the “worst decisions I have ever seen.”

Oh so I see, McCain told the IRS to audit these "non profits" that were donating money to elections outside of the legal parameters until they were defunct, and that makes him a communist?

A COMMUNIST?

It makes him one of the few Republicans who tried to stand up for ANY CHANCE that the 1% didn't take total control of the political election system you idiot.

Man I just need to go somewhere else and talk to people. You guys are too fkin stupid to have a real conversation with.

No. This is all about weaponizing the IRS to harass one side of the political isle that McCain didn’t agree with and it ain’t the dems. Show me where I’m wrong?

I already told you I’m not an idiot. What’s with the personal attacks?

If I am misinformed about something then please show me where I’m wrong. I’ve already shown you that I’m a reasonable person. I have pointed out deficiencies within the Trump administration. I’m not resorting to personal attacks simply because I don’t agree with you. How the Hell do you expect to have a “real conversation” with someone who is constantly attacking you?

He doesn’t want a real conversation. He’s a leftist, which means he shouts down, attacks, and shames anyone who disagrees with him, yet he doesn’t get why people hate liberals

[YoBenny]

You see wildflower, even the terminology you use sounds like it came straight out of a tin hat conference.

John McCain, 6 year prisoner of war, two term republican congressman and 5 term republican senator, weaponized the IRS to attack his own party exclusively during his work in campaign finance reform?

And so therefore, he is a communist.

Who in the hell do you listen to? Alex Jones?

HERE'S YOUR SIGN..........

[YoBenny]

I aint no liberal ya delta dunce, I'm Independent Centrist, I think both your camps are polarized and borderline insanity. Tin hat insanity with a lot of you righties......

[Wildfowler]

If the IRS would have used the same approach with both sides of the political isle there would be no issue with me. But as it stands the tea party movement was squashed by the IRS by delaying nonprofit applications, auditing, etc. and the dems did not receive equal treatment.

I’m all for reigning in political contributions. I think we should have zero pacs. Whatever limit we want to impose on individual contributions, that should be iy as far as I’m concerned.

And so because he didn’t like a supreme court ruling gives McCain the authority to use a government agency to target his opponent unfairly. That horse chit!!

And we’re seeing the exact same thing with the FBI and the Department of Justice in regards to how they treated Hillary versus how they are treating Trump.

[YoBenny]

OK, I'll buy that, if you can tell me who on the democratic side of the isle was using the same tactics that were attacked when the tea party used them. Im all ears, who dunnit....

MCCain is well known for not giving a flying hooty which side of the isle is messing up, he doesnt care, if you mess up, you get the switch, my party or your party, I dont care. The rule of law applies to all.

So who dunnit on the Dem side of the Isle that he let slide?

[Wildfowler]

OK, I'll buy that, if you can tell me who on the democratic side of the isle was using the same tactics that were attacked when the tea party used them. Im all ears, who dunnit....

I don’t understand the question? What was the tea party doing?

My point was that the IRS was instructed by a member of Senate to derail a certain political group. But they did not detail both political groups equally.

That’s a problem.

[YoBenny]

Who told you that?
To be clear
Who told you that the IRS was instructed to derail a GOP based group but not a DNC group?

[davidees]

Ahem, Louis Lerner, ahem...

[420 racin]

Ok, so some folks lied about talking to the Russians, or tried to launder money etc.. Exactly how did that influence the election and give Trump the White House? How does someone talking to them make me and millions others vote for Trump? And you want to talk about dealings with the Russians, look no farther than you queen Hillary. Approved the sale of Uranium One to the Russian Company Rosatom that gave them ~20% of the Uranium in the US. There are court documents and statements etc.. as far back as 2009 where we had undercover intelligence officials telling us (The Obama Admin) that the Russians were involved in Bribery, extortion, laundering, etc.. to grow their Nuclear interest int eh US and they were using Bill and the Clinton Foundation to accomplish this, but the Obama Justice Dept. didn't do anything. It's no wonder these people and companies were Clinton Foundation donors, they paid Bill $$$$$ for a speech, and they Donated Hundreds of millions to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was Sec of State. If you honestly believe there is no "Collusion" there you are purposefully allowing yourself to be blinded. Just answer this, why have companies stopped donating to the Clinton Foundation after she lost the Election? Because she couldn't do anything for them anymore..that is why.

[davidees]

I aint no liberal ya delta dunce, I'm Independent Centrist, I think both your camps are polarized and borderline insanity. Tin hat insanity with a lot of you righties......

Dude, you could not be a bigger left wing statist

[davidees]

Ok, so some folks lied about talking to the Russians, or tried to launder money etc.. Exactly how did that influence the election and give Trump the White House? How does someone talking to them make me and millions others vote for Trump? And you want to talk about dealings with the Russians, look no farther than you queen Hillary. Approved the sale of Uranium One to the Russian Company Rosatom that gave them ~20% of the Uranium in the US. There are court documents and statements etc.. as far back as 2009 where we had undercover intelligence officials telling us (The Obama Admin) that the Russians were involved in Bribery, extortion, laundering, etc.. to grow their Nuclear interest int eh US and they were using Bill and the Clinton Foundation to accomplish this, but the Obama Justice Dept. didn't do anything. It's no wonder these people and companies were Clinton Foundation donors, they paid Bill $$$$$ for a speech, and they Donated Hundreds of millions to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was Sec of State. If you honestly believe there is no "Collusion" there you are purposefully allowing yourself to be blinded. Just answer this, why have companies stopped donating to the Clinton Foundation after she lost the Election? Because she couldn't do anything for them anymore..that is why.

This is all true, but it’s also why the left wing propaganda machine main stream talking snake media cannot be trusted...nary a peep about all that as it unfolded

[Wildfowler]

Who told you that?
To be clear
Who told you that the IRS was instructed to derail a GOP based group but not a DNC group?

The link I sent when I called Mccain a communist.

There were IRS hearings all of this came out during that time.

You can research and find many “patriot “organizations that in some cases took up to three years to receive nonprofit status so they could begin operations.