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Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 pm
by kris Schaumburg
GC,

I am fascinated by the strains of mottles. They actually come in 3 strains. The FL birds are really light and the drakes bill is more yellow and the hens more orange. Then you get middle GC birds (ie LA birds) that are darker like this one with olive bill and tone downed hen bills. Then as you work you're way into TX, you start to get into Mexican ducks, which are again lighter with brighter bills. All cool birds.

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:50 pm
by kris Schaumburg
GC,

I am fascinated by the strains of mottles. They actually come in 3 strains. The FL birds are really light and the drakes bill is more yellow and the hens more orange. Then you get middle GC birds (ie LA birds) that are darker like this one with olive bill and tone downed hen bills. Then as you work you're way into TX, you start to get into Mexican ducks, which are again lighter with brighter bills. All cool birds.

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:44 pm
by GulfCoast
kris Schaumburg wrote:GC,

I am fascinated by the strains of mottles. They actually come in 3 strains. The FL birds are really light and the drakes bill is more yellow and the hens more orange. Then you get middle GC birds (ie LA birds) that are darker like this one with olive bill and tone downed hen bills. Then as you work you're way into TX, you start to get into Mexican ducks, which are again lighter with brighter bills. All cool birds.


Its always a joy to come out with 3 mottled ducks and have to explain to the "friendly federal warden" that no, you are NOT over the limit on black ducks...... :roll: :lol:

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:20 pm
by Locked Up
The duck was shot in Bolivar County. Not that Mottled ducks don't come up this way. I wasn't sure if it is mottled or black but I appreciate all the info.

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:36 pm
by Locked Up
Found this on line: Makes me think its a Mottled.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... %26hl%3Den

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:42 pm
by msbigdawg1234
Those were the 2 that CC killed i do believe.....then i killed the big drake few days later in the same unit......

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:49 pm
by BR549
GulfCoast wrote:
BR549 wrote: Mottled ducks won't have the white trailer on the wing patch unless it's been cross bred with a black.


No offense, but profoundly incorrect.


Google it and see for yourself! Mottled ducks do NOT have the white trailer!

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:00 pm
by Damn_It_Boy
Wow, you pretty damn smart boy........smarter than these folks?

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/bird ... ottled.htm
Body: Large duck, 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 pounds, 19 - 22 inches long. Dark but lighter than Black Duck because of more buff edging. Head and neck buffy with thin streaking. Chin of female lacks streaking; male chin slight to moderate streaking. Bill of male yellow to greenish yellow; female bill orange with black spots or blotches. Feet orange to bright reddish orange. Wings: Similar to Black Duck although lighter. Trailing edge of speculum often bordered with faint white bars. Voice: Female, loud quack; male, low raspy rink. In Flight: Identical to Black Duck. Note: Restricted to gulf coast of Texas and Louisiana.

and these folks........ http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/1017/_ ... _Duck.aspx
Overview
Mottled Duck: Medium dabbling duck with dark brown mottled body, feathers usually show distinct multi-toned chevrons, buff-brown face and unmarked neck, darker crown and eye line. Speculum is blue-green bordered with black and fine white bars. Bill is bright yellow; legs and feet are orange.


mang, you smart.......... :roll:

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:56 am
by mudsucker
Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck arguing about which season it is;

Bugs: DUCK!
Daffy: RABBIT?
DUCK!
RABBIT!
DUCK!
RABBIT!
DUCK!
RABBIT!
Bugs: RABBIT!
Daffy: DUCK!!!

Where upon Elmer Fudd shoots Daffy's booty off!














Now back to the annual Black or Mottled discussion! :wink: :lol:

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:48 am
by BR549
Damn_It_Boy wrote:Wow, you pretty damn smart boy........smarter than these folks?

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/bird ... ottled.htm
Body: Large duck, 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 pounds, 19 - 22 inches long. Dark but lighter than Black Duck because of more buff edging. Head and neck buffy with thin streaking. Chin of female lacks streaking; male chin slight to moderate streaking. Bill of male yellow to greenish yellow; female bill orange with black spots or blotches. Feet orange to bright reddish orange. Wings: Similar to Black Duck although lighter. Trailing edge of speculum often bordered with faint white bars. Voice: Female, loud quack; male, low raspy rink. In Flight: Identical to Black Duck. Note: Restricted to gulf coast of Texas and Louisiana.

and these folks........ http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/1017/_ ... _Duck.aspx
Overview
Mottled Duck: Medium dabbling duck with dark brown mottled body, feathers usually show distinct multi-toned chevrons, buff-brown face and unmarked neck, darker crown and eye line. Speculum is blue-green bordered with black and fine white bars. Bill is bright yellow; legs and feet are orange.


mang, you smart.......... :roll:


Boy? BOY? Who the F#ck you callin boy you fat no duckhunting sombitch!You got quite a few years and several thousand ducks to go to catch up to me you piss ant! You might know your shiatt with a dog but you don't know jack about anything else!

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:07 am
by gator
just a shot in the dark but...............bufflehead?

gator

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:30 am
by Jeff
Well after four pages of debate, like Gator said Canvasback!


After shooting enough mottled ducks and a few blacks in my years I say mottled. I don't pay any attention to the wing. I just "look" at the bird. A true black is MUCH darker. A mottled upon closer look almost has a cinammon color to it. It looks mottled to me.

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:46 am
by Roach
Image

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:01 am
by Damn_It_Boy
BR549 wrote:
Damn_It_Boy wrote:Wow, you pretty damn smart boy........smarter than these folks?

http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/bird ... ottled.htm
Body: Large duck, 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 pounds, 19 - 22 inches long. Dark but lighter than Black Duck because of more buff edging. Head and neck buffy with thin streaking. Chin of female lacks streaking; male chin slight to moderate streaking. Bill of male yellow to greenish yellow; female bill orange with black spots or blotches. Feet orange to bright reddish orange. Wings: Similar to Black Duck although lighter. Trailing edge of speculum often bordered with faint white bars. Voice: Female, loud quack; male, low raspy rink. In Flight: Identical to Black Duck. Note: Restricted to gulf coast of Texas and Louisiana.

and these folks........ http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/1017/_ ... _Duck.aspx
Overview
Mottled Duck: Medium dabbling duck with dark brown mottled body, feathers usually show distinct multi-toned chevrons, buff-brown face and unmarked neck, darker crown and eye line. Speculum is blue-green bordered with black and fine white bars. Bill is bright yellow; legs and feet are orange.


mang, you smart.......... :roll:


Boy? BOY? Who the F#ck you callin boy you fat no duckhunting sombitch!You got quite a few years and several thousand ducks to go to catch up to me you piss ant! You might know your shiatt with a dog but you don't know jack about anything else!


why YOU of course........ BOY! :lol: :lol: :lol: Mang, I'm really sorry to have made you look like a complete idiot and fool. Be a man, admit you don't know what the feck you were talking about, and move on......... :roll:

Re: Black Duck?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:10 am
by mottlet
:roll: :roll: :roll:

I look at black ducks every time I go out and occasionally even shoot the wary-azz basterds. It ain't a black duck.