Which is better... Echo or RNT? Single or Double Reed?

[Greenhead22]

SGC's blow.........that's for sure.

[tip101]

hahaha you just have to have right stuff.....
















































i bet while you were reading that you were anticipating typing i dont want the right stuff. right

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[champcaller]

SGC's blow.........that's for sure.

touche'

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Which one you blow best is the right call

[BlackTahoe]

Calls sound their best when they are on the bordeline of sticking. These calls with the cut out tone board for non-sticking do not sound good at all.

I think this in an incredible statement that shows exactly the kind of quality call you're blowing. To say that your call sounds best right before it fails is possibly the worst advertisement for a call.

Either your call can't produce the range of vocalization you like (without the addition of foreign objects; ie saliva, tobacco particles, or even dirt), or you're too inept to blow it properly.

When call makers say "this call doesn't stick" they are saying that with proper maintenance and care this call will not stick. If your call sticks, it's most likely not because of some design flaw, but rather a lack of care on the consumer's end.

[Greenhead22]

This coming from a man that called Greg Hood a legend.

Moisture has alot to do with the bottom end tone of a call. A reed that is on the brink of sticking produces more rasp than a dry reed. I have seen several callmakers use this line before.......The more wet cocobola gets, the better it sounds. The same goes for the reed. Callmakers use the "nonstick" line in an attempt to sell more calls. The only way to keep a call from truly not sticking is too either put sandpaper on the insert to rough it up or cut out grooves in the insert like a couple of guys have started doing, which in turn will cause you to lose bottom end.

On another note, since you are a big SGC and Greg Hood fan, how about we make a friendly wager? I'll bet you any amount of money that Hood doesn't win the comp on saturday.

[BlackTahoe]

Moisture has a lot to do with the bottom end tone of a call. A reed that is on the brink of sticking produces more rasp than a dry reed. I have seen several callmakers use this line before.......The more wet cocobola gets, the better it sounds. The same goes for the reed. Callmakers use the "nonstick" line in an attempt to sell more calls. The only way to keep a call from truly not sticking is too either put sandpaper on the insert to rough it up or cut out grooves in the insert like a couple of guys have started doing, which in turn will cause you to lose bottom end.

On another note, since you are a big SGC and Greg Hood fan, how about we make a friendly wager? I'll bet you any amount of money that Hood doesn't win the comp on saturday.

See I didn't attack you, but instead of answering the question, you missed the point and chose to attack my opinion.

I'm not going to argue over taste of whether a low end rasp sounds better that a clean quack because it is a matter of taste. The only point I made was that if the only way your call will make raspy low end sound is to get stuck well then you either have a cheap call or you're not that good. I don't know you so I'll let you decide which it is.

As for the cynical line that call makers use the "no stick" line to sell calls I can only guess you're attitude comes from dealing with call makers who care about the bottom line rather than quality.

I don't think I ever said that I was strictly a SGC or even a Greg Hood fan. I like Greg and having met him at several shows and having written several articles about him and his waterfowl conservation stances I feel he is one of the most knowledgable and successful hunters out there.
Every comment I ever made about him was based on public record and my personal dealings with him. I merely pointed out that your opinions were based on ignorant speculation and blatant hearsay.

And yes Greg is a legend. Regardless of whether he wins or losses he's still the greatest caller/wildlife and waterfowl representative MS has ever produced. It is my opinion based on facts.

A measure of a man should never be how many trophies he won or how much money he made. I think you miss the reason for being an outdoorsman if it's only about money and fame.

I hope you come to Jackson, MS Saturday and watch. Maybe Greg will make it 6.

[Greenhead22]

I answered the question very clearly from my standpoint. I may have not answered the question the way you wanted, but I answered the question.

Tons of RNT's have been sent back with sticking issues, so have Echo, SGC's. The list goes on and on. I have yet to find a call that I couldn't stick. I've questioned several callmakers over the years concerning this, and they all said the same thing. It doesn't even matter if you are a heavy spitter.......the call shouldn't stick. I was self-taught, and I have not had one practice session with any champion caller or callmaker. If I had, then I probably wouldn't have the sticking problem. But then again, I know people that go to practice and such week in, week out and still have issues with sticking. And they are far more advanced in calling techniques than myself.

As for Greg winning #6 saturday......I know something you don't.

[champcaller]

Moisture has a lot to do with the bottom end tone of a call. A reed that is on the brink of sticking produces more rasp than a dry reed. I have seen several callmakers use this line before.......The more wet cocobola gets, the better it sounds. The same goes for the reed. Callmakers use the "nonstick" line in an attempt to sell more calls. The only way to keep a call from truly not sticking is too either put sandpaper on the insert to rough it up or cut out grooves in the insert like a couple of guys have started doing, which in turn will cause you to lose bottom end.

On another note, since you are a big SGC and Greg Hood fan, how about we make a friendly wager? I'll bet you any amount of money that Hood doesn't win the comp on saturday.

See I didn't attack you, but instead of answering the question, you missed the point and chose to attack my opinion.

I'm not going to argue over taste of whether a low end rasp sounds better that a clean quack because it is a matter of taste. The only point I made was that if the only way your call will make raspy low end sound is to get stuck well then you either have a cheap call or you're not that good. I don't know you so I'll let you decide which it is.

As for the cynical line that call makers use the "no stick" line to sell calls I can only guess you're attitude comes from dealing with call makers who care about the bottom line rather than quality.

I don't think I ever said that I was strictly a SGC or even a Greg Hood fan. I like Greg and having met him at several shows and having written several articles about him and his waterfowl conservation stances I feel he is one of the most knowledgable and successful hunters out there.
Every comment I ever made about him was based on public record and my personal dealings with him. I merely pointed out that your opinions were based on ignorant speculation and blatant hearsay.

And yes Greg is a legend. Regardless of whether he wins or losses he's still the greatest caller/wildlife and waterfowl representative MS has ever produced. It is my opinion based on facts.

A measure of a man should never be how many trophies he won or how much money he made. I think you miss the reason for being an outdoorsman if it's only about money and fame.

I hope you come to Jackson, MS Saturday and watch. Maybe Greg will make it 6.

dont get me wrong that greg hood has done a lot for ms for waterfowling but what makes you think he is the best ms has ever produced?


i personally think, as im sure most would agree, that the best caller in mississippi is kent cullum, who finished 16th opposed to hood who finished 33rd in the past years worlds championship. the only two people to win the worlds championships from ms was the first worlds championship in stuttgart in 1936 by thomas walsh who won using his mouth without a call and then wc cross who won back to back in 1957 and 1958.

again this is no personal attack on greg hood; im just stating the facts.

and i have never heard you blow a duck call, but i have heard gh22 and i can tell you that he does know what he is talking about and is a very good caller. again i have never heard you blow a call and you very well in fact could be a very accomplished caller but gh22 is a good caller and i dont think that warrants the personal attacks on his calling abilitly or knowlege there of.

[olemissduckhunter]

I spend a lot of time with Greg and i believe that he is an incredible human being. Just because he can blow a duck call is a plus. He is probably one of the best family men i know and I have yet to meet someone as religious as he is. I have heard a lot of people blow a duck call and I am not saying Greg is the best but he does have passion for the sport. Just from the time he has taken with me and some of my friends is incredible. I also have heard GH22 and Champcaller both run a duck call like i couldn't believe and it is not hard for me to say that they are both "out of my league " when it comes to calling ducks. I also think that just because you dislike a mans calls is one thing but it does not merrit the type of crap Greg catches. I had the chance to switch callmakers this year but after a long talk with Greg i realized its not all about the call or winning trophies that makes this sport great, its the people you meet and the life long friends you make that makes all of this hard work fun.

[champcaller]

I spend a lot of time with Greg and i believe that he is an incredible human being. Just because he can blow a duck call is a plus. He is probably one of the best family men i know and I have yet to meet someone as religious as he is. I have heard a lot of people blow a duck call and I am not saying Greg is the best but he does have passion for the sport. Just from the time he has taken with me and some of my friends is incredible. I also have heard GH22 and Champcaller both run a duck call like i couldn't believe and it is not hard for me to say that they are both "out of my league " when it comes to calling ducks. I also think that just because you dislike a mans calls is one thing but it does not merrit the type of crap Greg catches. I had the chance to switch callmakers this year but after a long talk with Greg i realized its not all about the call or winning trophies that makes this sport great, its the people you meet and the life long friends you make that makes all of this hard work fun.

touch my friend

and for those who dont know... pete is as good as a caller as they come

[GordonGekko]

all i know is ya'll better quit complementing GH22 or his head will explode....

i hate that i'm gonna miss the competition saturday (as an observer) got several friends that are entered and i hate i'm gonna miss it...

now, get back to this "who makes the best calls" stuff.... it's a good primer for duck season....

[champcaller]

all i know is ya'll better quit complementing GH22 or his head will explode....

i hate that i'm gonna miss the competition saturday (as an observer) got several friends that are entered and i hate i'm gonna miss it...

now, get back to this "who makes the best calls" stuff.... it's a good primer for duck season....

[Yute]

I like my single reed rnt's and so do the people i hunt with. I just picked up a MVP and i like it a lot. If you dont like the price tags on the RNT's look at Southern game calls they have a lot of good quality calls at good prices.