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Postby chopper30 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:37 pm

Congratulations on that awesome 10 inch wide 6 point!!!! That's great that you shot it since it's not like you haven't shot a buck before, not to mention the meat on him won't be anywhere near as tender as that doe you let walk, and especially since now someone with their head on right won't be able to let him grow up to be a real trophy they can be proud of! I commend you Mr. shoot anything with horns like it is still the early 80's!!!!
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Postby Grommet » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:45 pm

Chopper I am afraid you are wasting your time. I have delt with these old school deer hunters for a long time. They are the same ones that live in a mobile home and drive a pos truck but have a nice four wheeler in the back with four point tied to it. You can not change there minds you just have to educate future hunters and wait on these folks walkers to get suck in the mud. :wink:
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Postby waterfowlwidowmaker » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:58 pm

Another great post by Mr. Outdoorsman Himself. Choppers tire slashing, schit stealing comment was obvioulsy a pot stirring post. But the internet outdoorsman had to chime in about our generation and its lack of respect. If they want to shoot every deer they see from button bucks to 15" 6 points than rock on.

I personally don't try to kill big deer because of the "recognition" I would supposedly recieve. I believe that bigger deer are much more of a challenge and test your skills to their limits.

I believe that you have to surround yourself with the people in your camp that have the same type of agenda you do. This way, good times can be had by all and no one has to worry about another member shooting all the small bucks he sees. If someone makes a mistake and shoots a small buck, then its just that, a mistake. No big deel, we'll get past it and do our best not to let it happen again.
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Postby sportsman450 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:05 pm

chopper30 wrote:Congratulations on that awesome 10 inch wide 6 point!!!! That's great that you shot it since it's not like you haven't shot a buck before, not to mention the meat on him won't be anywhere near as tender as that doe you let walk
Actually that 10" 6 point is likely to be a year and a half old deer and be more tender than an old mature doe. :wink: :lol: :wink:


chopper30 wrote:especially since now someone with their head on right won't be able to let him grow up to be a real trophy they can be proud of!
You just said it right there. I love the modern "trophy" hunter who passes on the same deer year after year waiting for him to grow to a size they think is acceptable. By virtue of having been let grow, he won't be any more of a "trophy" than he is now. It would only prove the patience not skill of the hunter.
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Postby Grommet » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:09 pm

sportsman450 wrote:You just said it right there. I love the modern "trophy" hunter who passes on the same deer year after year waiting for him to grow to a size they think is acceptable. By virtue of having been let grow, he won't be any more of a "trophy" than he is now. It would only prove the patience not skill of the hunter.


I disagree it shows a great deal of skill. Skill and a little luck is why some people harvest mature bucks with a bow and others harvest does and six points. To beat a mature bucks senses even to the point of seeing it is a challange to get it in bow range is a miracle.
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Postby Deagle » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:24 pm

WOW! You guys are making some interesting points. I may have seen the errors of my ways. My dogs have been running the bucks youre letting mature off your property. :oops: Dang guys, I'm sorry. :idea: I'm going to take my whole litter to vet right now to see if he will cut one of each dogs back legs off. That way the deer wont get run as hard.

Thanks for the enlightenment guys.
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Postby Grommet » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:29 pm

BEER DEAGLE wrote:WOW! You guys are making some interesting points. I may have seen the errors of my ways. My dogs have been running the bucks youre letting mature off your property. :oops: Dang guys, I'm sorry. :idea: I'm going to take my whole litter to vet right now to see if he will cut one of each dogs back legs off. That way the deer wont get run as hard.

Thanks for the enlightenment guys.


You make statements like that and then you wonder why someone would thin your pack. :roll:

I think it is probably best to let it go you have made your point.

But before I go if I trained my dog to go through your house take your money, rape your wife, and eat your children would you be mad?
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Postby chopper30 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:29 pm

I'm in total agreement sprotidiot450. It is just as easy and as much of a trophy to shoot a buck when he is a spike then when he has 5 to 6 years of maturing under his belt. This must be why people see just as many older more mature deer during daylight hours all year long as spikes and fourpoints. That's just dumb! Please do us a favor and not provide your insite unless it's something you actually know about like dog hunting.
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Postby MSDuckmen » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:29 pm

waterfowlwidowmaker wrote:Another great post by Mr. Outdoorsman Himself. Choppers tire slashing, schit stealing comment was obvioulsy a pot stirring post. But the internet outdoorsman had to chime in about our generation and its lack of respect. If they want to shoot every deer they see from button bucks to 15" 6 points than rock on.

I personally don't try to kill big deer because of the "recognition" I would supposedly recieve. I believe that bigger deer are much more of a challenge and test your skills to their limits.

I believe that you have to surround yourself with the people in your camp that have the same type of agenda you do. This way, good times can be had by all and no one has to worry about another member shooting all the small bucks he sees. If someone makes a mistake and shoots a small buck, then its just that, a mistake. No big deel, we'll get past it and do our best not to let it happen again.


Mr. Outdoors.. Well thank you...

Seems to me all I said was "So this is what our hunters have turned into."
And you took it as a shot at the youth again.... HMMMM must have hit a nerve or maybe hit too close to home huh?

I said hunters not youth just so you understand.... :roll:

I have yet to see a single person chow down on antlers, so size don't mean a dang thing to me. Call me old school thats fine but I'm deer hunting not trophy hunting. I do not kill over my limit and I shoot when I feel that I want to. Sometimes big, sometimes small but it is my choice not yours or anyone elses as long as it is legal. &%$# a bunch of horns... :wink:

Sad part about it is that you can mouth off that it is all about the skill if you want to. But I have learned enough to know that a wiley old Doe is much harder to kill than any TROPHY buck. Too bad they don't make a spinner buck you boys would be in heaven.... :lol: :lol:
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Postby chopper30 » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:30 pm

Grommet wrote:
But before I go if I trained my dog to go through your house take your money, rape your wife, and eat your children would you be mad?


His wife might actually be happy for a change.... :shock:
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Postby Jelly » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:30 pm

sportsman450 wrote:
chopper30 wrote:Congratulations on that awesome 10 inch wide 6 point!!!! That's great that you shot it since it's not like you haven't shot a buck before, not to mention the meat on him won't be anywhere near as tender as that doe you let walk
Actually that 10" 6 point is likely to be a year and a half old deer and be more tender than an old mature doe. :wink: :lol: :wink:


chopper30 wrote:especially since now someone with their head on right won't be able to let him grow up to be a real trophy they can be proud of!
You just said it right there. I love the modern "trophy" hunter who passes on the same deer year after year waiting for him to grow to a size they think is acceptable. By virtue of having been let grow, he won't be any more of a "trophy" than he is now. It would only prove the patience not skill of the hunter.


I'm more dumb after reading this. Thanks
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Postby Grommet » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:31 pm

MSDuckmen wrote:Sad part about it is that you can mouth off that it is all about the skill if you want to. But I have learned enough to know that a wiley old Doe is much harder to kill than any TROPHY buck. Too bad they don't make a spinner buck you boys would be in heaven.... :lol: :lol:


I disagree I have killed lots of eight year old does I have never killed an eight year old buck. :roll:
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Postby waterfowlwidowmaker » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:01 pm

For once, I agree with you duckman. An old doe is one of the most challenging game animals there is. I have always enjoyed being able to harvest an old doe. I believe her keen sense of awareness and stealthy attitude presents a significant challenge. I swear, when I know I'm about to get a shot at a good sized doe, my heart races like a 180"er is standing in front of me.

I'm still in total disagreement about your views of "managing" your deer herd. But, everyone has their own views and has to do what they feel is right. As for me, I will continue to shoot a lot of does, cull bucks, and pass on the ones i feel have not met their potential development. I think this is the part of deer hunting I love so much. I love being able to watch deer grow and wonder what they will be like next year. Big racks are one thing, but to be able to confidently say that you had an impact on helping a mature deer develop the way he has through timber management, food plots, mineral licks, etc. is worth all the time and effort I put in to it each year.
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Postby Deagle » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:11 pm

chopper30 wrote:
Grommet wrote:
But before I go if I trained my dog to go through your house take your money, rape your wife, and eat your children would you be mad?


His wife might actually be happy for a change.... :shock:


WTF are you guys talking about. Did one of my dogs break in your place and take the ole one eyed hunter to yer women-folk? You guys are harsh. I'm gonna have to consult my therapist before answering this.
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Postby Jelly » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:12 pm

waterfowlwidowmaker wrote:For once, I agree with you duckman. An old doe is one of the most challenging game animals there is. I have always enjoyed being able to harvest an old doe. I believe her keen sense of awareness and stealthy attitude presents a significant challenge. I swear, when I know I'm about to get a shot at a good sized doe, my heart races like a 180"er is standing in front of me.

I'm still in total disagreement about your views of "managing" your deer herd. But, everyone has their own views and has to do what they feel is right. As for me, I will continue to shoot a lot of does, cull bucks, and pass on the ones i feel have not met their potential development. I think this is the part of deer hunting I love so much. I love being able to watch deer grow and wonder what they will be like next year. Big racks are one thing, but to be able to confidently say that you had an impact on helping a mature deer develop the way he has through timber management, food plots, mineral licks, etc. is worth all the time and effort I put in to it each year.


Well said.. That's why that old doe is slick, she has some age on her..
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