Speaker Phillip Gunn Calls For Removal of Confederate Flag..

[IttaBenaKilla]

Lodi: More white people voted than black people to keep the flag as is.

I narrowly framed the issue as I see it. I am not debating anything other than the flag. The monuments and street names are a whole other discussion. Apples and oranges. I stand by what I said, and I am not going to chase any rabbit trails.

[lilwhitelie]

As you can see in the news there is a big trend now to deface any memorial that is of confederate decent but no mention of hate crimes to the ones defacing them. Kid gets possible 10 years in jail for what he did to a statue of james Meredith. Is this not a double standard?? How does this help race relations??? Take the flag!!! But it isn't going to stop there that's being proven. They are demanding all confederate statues or memorials to go. Next are street names, park names, military bases, war ships, lakes and reservoirs, towns etc till there is no history left. Yet there are schools named after Malcolm x and streets as well. He was an active racist and praised the killing of JFK. Sad the kid killed the folks in South Carolina but it had nothing to do with the flag etc. Politicians are using this to gain votes etc in areas where it counts. Others are being quiet because they know many are watching there comments and know the wrong words will cost them an election.

Baltimore is a great example. Police watched as a city was burned while people committed felonies in front of their faces and they were told to do nothing to let people vent. Then they call for federal funding to rebuild.

If anyone thinks this starts and ends with the flag you are wrong and smart politicians are fully aware their voters are watching. Phil Bryant may offer to put this to a vote and that is his best option. To override what was voted on in the past to appease a few would be political suicide. There was a vast majority in America that didn't vote for Obama but he won electoral votes so we live with it. No rioting or boycotting. Let the system work. When you start making decisions and defying your voters you are on a lonely path come election time.

So I hope the American Indians are taking notes. If they are they have plenty of fire power to remove the Stars and Stripes.

[Deltamud77]

The mayor of Memphis has called for the removal of the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue by the Health Science Center....AND the removal of his body and his wife's body from the grounds as well.

[teul2]

Lodi: More white people voted than black people to keep the flag as is.

There are more white than black in this state. So that makes perfect sense.

[gps4]

just out of curiosity, how many of you fellas have the mississippi state flag or any confederate battle flag flying in your front yards?

[IttaBenaKilla]

Teul, that was the point. He asked me to explain the vote from 14 years ago. So I gave the short answer.

[cwink]

The original state flag with the Magnolia tree was originally adopted in 1861 (at the beginning of the civil war). Prior to 1861 there was not an official MS Flag... It wasn't until 1906 that MS changed the flag to the current rebel flag version. If the Rebel Flag version was the original flag from the the time MS became a state in 1817, then I would say the flag should stay.. But it was adopted (I believe) in response to the civil war and therefore, I think it is time to change it back either to the original 1861 flag or to the one that was proposed in 2001, which I think is a really cool looking flag..


I do not support changing park names, street names, pulling down monuments, etc. I see them as two seperate issues.

[lilwhitelie]

Teul, that was the point. He asked me to explain the vote from 14 years ago. So I gave the short answer.

Does that make all that voted to keep the flag racist??? Does it make all that voted to remove it racist?? What will change the outcome of a new vote as the demographics aren't much different?

[cwink]

The original state flag with the Magnolia tree was originally adopted in 1861 (at the beginning of the civil war). Prior to 1861 there was not an official MS Flag... It wasn't until 1906 that MS changed the flag to the current rebel flag version. If the Rebel Flag version was the original flag from the the time MS became a state in 1817, then I would say the flag should stay.. But it was adopted (I believe) in response to the civil war and therefore, I think it is time to change it back either to the original 1861 flag or to the one that was proposed in 2001, which I think is a really cool looking flag..


I do not support changing park names, street names, pulling down monuments, etc. I see them as two separate issues.

[lilwhitelie]

The original state flag with the Magnolia tree was originally adopted in 1861 (at the beginning of the civil war). Prior to 1861 there was not an official MS Flag... It wasn't until 1906 that MS changed the flag to the current rebel flag version. If the Rebel Flag version was the original flag from the the time MS became a state in 1817, then I would say the flag should stay.. But it was adopted (I believe) in response to the civil war and therefore, I think it is time to change it back either to the original 1861 flag or to the one that was proposed in 2001, which I think is a really cool looking flag..


I do not support changing park names, street names, pulling down monuments, etc. I see them as two separate issues.

You have seen the news?? The flag is just a starting point for the removal of ALL items. Already taking place in other states. When we are the last state left they will come in droves until our leaders bow and give in. Anxious to see how the city of brandon handles this issue.

[cwink]

The original state flag with the Magnolia tree was originally adopted in 1861 (at the beginning of the civil war). Prior to 1861 there was not an official MS Flag... It wasn't until 1906 that MS changed the flag to the current rebel flag version. If the Rebel Flag version was the original flag from the the time MS became a state in 1817, then I would say the flag should stay.. But it was adopted (I believe) in response to the civil war and therefore, I think it is time to change it back either to the original 1861 flag or to the one that was proposed in 2001, which I think is a really cool looking flag..


I do not support changing park names, street names, pulling down monuments, etc. I see them as two separate issues.

You have seen the news?? The flag is just a starting point for the removal of ALL items. Already taking place in other states. When we are the last state left they will come in droves until our leaders bow and give in. Anxious to see how the city of brandon handles this issue.

Yes.. I have seen the news.. It is on all day while I work from home.. I understand that they want to replace the flag and the monuments and parks and everything else.. I get all that.. I am not in favor of that.... The flag that flies over our government buildings is a active, living entity that represents us to all the people in the state, the nation and the world.. The flag was changed after the civil war. The men that fought and died were an active part of that war.... The civil war is part of our history, the rebel flag is part of our history and something the statutes and monument honor and help us remember. To me the statues and monuments are different than the flag..

[LODI QUACKER]

The Yellow Rose of Texas......



She is calling you home......

[cwink]

The Yellow Rose of Texas......



She is calling you home......

[teul2]

Teul, that was the point. He asked me to explain the vote from 14 years ago. So I gave the short answer.

Our society is built on majority rule, with minority rights. The majority ruled. That should really be the end of it.
It is time to stop letting that minority shame us into giving up every thing we believe in.

[lilwhitelie]

Anyone tried to find a copy of gone with the wind???? Sold out everywhere!!!!!!!!