Mississippi is ready for some change

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Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby cupnglide » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:02 pm

donia wrote:
fireplug wrote:
deltadukman wrote:Will they reassign the appropriations chaimman once he passes the torch?
Yes! It will be reassigned to a ranking senator.
according to an earlier link, it will most likely be senator from aladammbama
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby donia » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:44 am

^^the article says y'all actually have 2 in line for affluent positions, if our long-running incumbent is ousted...not sure how it would shake out for your guys in the event of re-election/retirement scenario (given the possibility that other positions would likely be taken in the event that thad ends up as appropriations chair).
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby 420 racin » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:46 am

Now to add to the list of "Rookie Junior" senators we can add (hopefully) David Bratt form Virginia who just beat the Republican House Majority leader Eric Cantor. The GOP establishment is starting to see that we are tired of the same old crap they have been doing. hopefully we will start to see some change...any change in Washington. Good bye old guys and hello new guys
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby benjidp » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:38 am

I don't often post but I after reading some of there comments I have to interject.

The problem with all this is we don't have term limits. I like McDaniel but he will go up there and overspending, pork funding and liberal policies will slowly become palatable to him. He will forget what it was like to work a real career, or start a business, etc. There is no concern when voting the new bills in about consequences of his actions long term; politicians do not have to come back to their state after 2-4 years and work for an honest living, so there isn't any pressure to buck Washington, and they appease us by sending peanuts back down to the people of MS we'll keep voting them in. Better idea = don't take our peanuts to start with and you wouldn't have to send anything back!

It worries me when people say Thad has done so much for this state! We are THE poorest, fattest, most diabetic, and many more bottom of the list state in the Union. I love MS as much as the next guy but don't sit here and tell me anyone has done anything for this state politician wise. The businessmen of the state have done things, Toyota, Nissan, other industries have helped this state. The Government doesn't generate a product or new revenue. They take it from the people and it is time we put people in position to ensure we keep more of what WE EARN, spend less overseas, and open up natural resources. Constitutionalism is of UTMOST importance, as they shouldn't even appear in a primary if they believe any of our freedoms should be taken away.

I say give Chris a chance but again it's a futile effort until we change the nature of what it means to be a politician. No one should ever start out in politics and make 50 year career out of it! That's what people with names like Chavez, Castro, Stalin did for a living. If we keep this heading, we'll be naming one over the next 50 years.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby 3spop » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:50 am

2 days after Cantor lost, Cochran says he had no idea that Cantor lost. :shock: :shock: :shock:


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06 ... ntor-loss/
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby DoubleBandMS » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:35 pm

3spop wrote:2 days after Cantor lost, Cochran says he had no idea that Cantor lost. :shock: :shock: :shock:


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06 ... ntor-loss/
This pushed me over the edge. No wonder his team was hiding him from the media. Yesterday was a disaster. How can you not know the majority leader was ousted 2 days later? These comments and the farm animal comments are on every major news source. Embarrassing.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby edub20 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:40 pm

DoubleBandMS wrote:
3spop wrote:2 days after Cantor lost, Cochran says he had no idea that Cantor lost. :shock: :shock: :shock:


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06 ... ntor-loss/
This pushed me over the edge. No wonder his team was hiding him from the media. Yesterday was a disaster. How can you not know the majority leader was ousted 2 days later? These comments and the farm animal comments are on every major news source. Embarrassing.
Yeah... I'm as confused as ever on who to support now. Obviously Thad's crap ain't together mentally, and Chris just has that whole I'm a used car salesman thing going on. He's saying a lot of positive stuff but he just strikes me as shady.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby DanP » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:53 pm

It's unfortunate that McDaniel is not supportive of conservation efforts in the state.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby fireplug » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:18 pm

DanP wrote:It's unfortunate that McDaniel is not supportive of conservation efforts in the state.

When did he say he wasn't?
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby DanP » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:02 pm

Anybody that says the farm bill is a complete waste of money either doesn't support conservation or doesn't know what's in the farm bill, which is equally as disappointing. I read it on a twitter post from McDaniel don't remember the date.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby Ole Goat » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:25 pm

Wanted to add my $.02. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, so here's mine:

First, let me say that I understand the urge to rid Washington of the career politicians and put people in office who will truly represent everyone. However, I think that the political system in our country is based upon mutual agreements and benefits amongst the politicians. While a part of me would also like to see term limits, I also know that poor, sparsely populated states benefit immensely from a system where a Senator can have a long career and gain influence amongst the typical powers such as California, New York and Texas. Our forefathers did this intentionally.

Even if you are strongly in favor of ousting a senior senator from office and replace him with a young, inexperienced candidate, now would seem to be one of the absolute worst times in history to do so. Our country is facing strong opposition from the far-left, in all 3 branches of government, and now more than ever the Republican party needs all of the power and influence that it can muster. I truly believe that a vote for McDaniel would be merely to satisfy an ideological urge. Not only will he be a new senator with absolutely no influence, but he will also be shunned by the majority of the GOP, based upon his ideological stances and his Tea Party affiliation. He will not be able to achieve anything while he is in Washington. The minute following a McDaniel election, an Alabama senator will be chosen to fill Senator Cochran's position, and there will be a large sucking sound. That sound will be all of the federal funds and other benefits leaving this State and moving east to Alabama. Electing McDaniel will not make the pork-barrel spending and other benefits go away - it will simply move the ones that we currently get to Alabama. Like it or not, admit it or deny it, Mississippi is one of the poorest and least populated states in the nation; it relies heavily on the federal government. To replace one of the highest ranking Senators in the country with a freshman replacement would not be shooting yourself in the foot, but would instead be shooting yourself in the head. Even Senator Wicker, who has been in the Senate since 2007, has only minimal influence and connections in Washington, and is essentially unable to influence legislation or votes. Senator Cochran has worked hard to give Mississippi the influence that it currently has in Washington, despite its lack of population growth and revenue base. He is able to gain the attention of any other Congressman or Federal Agency in DC on short notice - even the White House. McDaniel will unfortunately have to fight to even get heard by the Senator McConnell.

I want to reassert that I do understand the desire to vote for McDaniel. However, if you stop and analyze it, I think you will see that such a vote is probably a vote for an ideology, and not an individual. I go to work every day, 70-80 hours per week, and I also get tired of the federal waste and inefficiency that occurs in Washington. But once I get past my initial reaction, I understand, whether I like it or not, that Washington works in a way that many of us don't fully appreciate. It is then that I realize that if I want what is in the best interest of my family and the best interest of my State, then it must be a vote for Senator Cochran.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby Hambone » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:12 am

Thank you Ole Goat for your well-reasoned comments, with which I agree completely.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby 420 racin » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:02 am

DanP wrote:Anybody that says the farm bill is a complete waste of money either doesn't support conservation or doesn't know what's in the farm bill, which is equally as disappointing. I read it on a twitter post from McDaniel don't remember the date.

He could be referring to the money that is wasted on the food stamp programs and such as that..it's a shame that they wrap all that entitlement money under the guise USDA and the Farm Bill and all. So if you want to cut the handouts, you have to appear or at least sound like you want to cut the farm bill, entirely. I am sure conservation is a priority, or at least on his mind, but alas I don't know that.

Ole Goat...good post but I dissagree..the status quo is not working, no matter how long Thad has been in there, it aint working. What Money that yall speak of is going to be leaving MS? Give me some examples of the stuff that this "pork" money does. I haven't recieved a red cent from Thad or his buddies in DC. But thanks to their voting to keep on raising the debt ceiling and bailouts and handouts and free money, I am stuck with the bill and my kids, and their kids and so on and so forth. At some point we have to stop. It will get worse before it gets better..I fell enough is enough and i have had enough
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby southdeltan » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:16 am

420 racin wrote:
DanP wrote:Anybody that says the farm bill is a complete waste of money either doesn't support conservation or doesn't know what's in the farm bill, which is equally as disappointing. I read it on a twitter post from McDaniel don't remember the date.

He could be referring to the money that is wasted on the food stamp programs and such as that..it's a shame that they wrap all that entitlement money under the guise USDA and the Farm Bill and all. So if you want to cut the handouts, you have to appear or at least sound like you want to cut the farm bill, entirely. I am sure conservation is a priority, or at least on his mind, but alas I don't know that.
He's on the record saying he is against Mississippi taking any Federal money. If he had his way, he'd do away with all federal programs. That includes the Farm bill. Food Stamps are a small % of what is in the Farm bill. Between the Farm bill and other Federal programs, approximately half of this states budget comes from the Federal government.
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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Postby JaMak84 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:56 am

southdeltan wrote:approximately half of this states budget comes from the Federal government.
Which is exactly why absolutely nothing will change no matter what the latest bullchit de jour is being peddled by the latest political talking head. If voteing for McDaniel makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside like he's actually gonna make a difference that's fine by me. Just don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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