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Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:14 am
by Deltamud77
ransco33 wrote:
Greenhead22 wrote:I want to know what the blueprint guys were thinking when they setup the field with a south wind blowing in all the time.
Those guys were probably Architects instead of Engineers. That's all I can think of anyway.
They wanted a view of downtown Omaha and the river so they set it up this way.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:16 am
by swamprooter
Omaha Neb current conditions............North winds 16mph

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:17 am
by champcaller
Not to take away from the great season the dogs had but it wouldn't of mattered what field y'all played on. They flat out won that series.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:25 am
by swamprooter
I vividly remember watching 2005 National Champion Texas team in Oxford at Super Regional small ball Bianco to death. I think their team had a 50+ homerun record coming in and all they did was bunt and RUN. Only homerun hit was by Texas second baseman who had never dinged one.

I think Cohen is building a Monster in Starkvegas........Congrats

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 am
by bigoak
Not going to complain about the field this year because it helped us against Indiana and Oregon State. They hit some bombs against us that should have been HRs. We just ran into a better team that shut down Renfroe, Rea and Frazier. They did the same thing to LSU and NC.

The two UCLA starters both rely on the high fastball which is perfect for TD Ameritrade. Hard for good hitters like Renfroe to lay off those type pitches and if you make a mistake it probably ends up being a long fly out.

I agree with what Orel Hersheiser said. Leave the balls and the bats alone. Move the fences in. It is safer that way. If you change the balls or bats then you increase the danger of a hot ball hitting the pitcher in the head. Move the fences in at TD Ameritrade about 10 ft and a few more balls get out of the park. The best power hitters in college should be able to hit a HR in any college park.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:59 am
by Deltamud77
champcaller wrote:Not to take away from the great season the dogs had but it wouldn't of mattered what field y'all played on. They flat out won that series.
There is no way to know that...and to that point, if you watched all of UCLAs games, you would know that they would have likely given up between 6-8 homeruns in a normal park (LSU hit three balls in one inning that would have left any SEC park).

UCLA would have had to change their entire pitching approach if this were a normal park. They lived on high fast balls and pop outs because they knew that the balls would not leave the park (there has never been a ball hit out in three years to center field in this park).

The high fast ball would have been out, meaning their whole approach changes.

Don't get me wrong, they (UCLA) figured this out early on and played to their strengths. That said, if this were a normal park, UCLA is not the champion today in my humble opinion.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:19 am
by mudsucker
Everyone played on the same field.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:23 am
by champcaller
Deltamud77 wrote:
champcaller wrote:Not to take away from the great season the dogs had but it wouldn't of mattered what field y'all played on. They flat out won that series.
There is no way to know that...and to that point, if you watched all of UCLAs games, you would know that they would have likely given up between 6-8 homeruns in a normal park (LSU hit three balls in one inning that would have left any SEC park).

UCLA would have had to change their entire pitching approach if this were a normal park. They lived on high fast balls and pop outs because they knew that the balls would not leave the park (there has never been a ball hit out in three years to center field in this park).

The high fast ball would have been out, meaning their whole approach changes.

Don't get me wrong, they (UCLA) figured this out early on and played to their strengths. That said, if this were a normal park, UCLA is not the champion today in my humble opinion.
But we are just talking about this series. Every team knew what field they were playing on.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:31 am
by MisterBlack
I SAY YES LAWD!!! :D :D :D :D

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Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:36 am
by MudHog
Deltamud77 wrote:
champcaller wrote:Not to take away from the great season the dogs had but it wouldn't of mattered what field y'all played on. They flat out won that series.
There is no way to know that...and to that point, if you watched all of UCLAs games, you would know that they would have likely given up between 6-8 homeruns in a normal park (LSU hit three balls in one inning that would have left any SEC park).

UCLA would have had to change their entire pitching approach if this were a normal park. They lived on high fast balls and pop outs because they knew that the balls would not leave the park (there has never been a ball hit out in three years to center field in this park).

The high fast ball would have been out, meaning their whole approach changes.

Don't get me wrong, they (UCLA) figured this out early on and played to their strengths. That said, if this were a normal park, UCLA is not the champion today in my humble opinion.

Hindsight is an evil monster. UCLA played on "normal" parks to get to the CWS. Plain and simple, UCLA out played every team at the game that everyone loves to play and watch, baseball. I say UCLA coaches just out coached every team they faced. I'm sorry, but baseball is not about homeruns. Homeruns are just a small part of baseball. Baseball is about fundamentals plain and simple. UCLA out played every team. A batter not laying off the high ones will likely get thrown high ones, its part of scouting and knowing your opponent. If I was a coach and I knew you liked low inside pitches, you think I will have my pitcher throw an inside sinker? Not at all, I'm trying to take the advantage away from the batter. Removing homeruns just levelled out the playing field and changed baseball to what it is known for. Homeruns will come back through. This year only brought on a new era of work out routines to build stronger players. Then just think how the balls will fly during the regular season. Gorilla ball will be back. So can TD Ameritrade Park be looked at as a means of bringing back gorilla ball versuses being looked at a park that is taking away homeruns?




There were comments a while back about so much dugout chatter it sounded like a girls softball game. Has anyone watched USSSA mens softball? Every hitter can crank it out. They literally hold back to get on base and then knock one out, until they get to the limit of homeruns. But in slow pitch softball, you don't have all the different pitches that you can throw like in baseball.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:50 am
by MudHog
Those interested in WIND conditions see here: http://www.localconditions.com/weather- ... 1/past.php

SSE winds.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:49 am
by skywalker
Whine whine whine......bats this, balls this, move the fence in closer. Really? Come on now, it was a good run and just got beat. UCLA would win 9 out of 10 times. Their pitching is top notch and they can hit. No, they are not power hitters, but contact hitters. Strategy. Look up the definition.

From a Bama boy, I was glad to see MSU representing the SEC, but.......on Mon PM they had some guys with their shirts unbuttoned down to their belt in the dugout and last nite with belts around their heads. Perfect stereotyping for rednecks. Call it 'rally whatever'. UCLA was all business and you see the results.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:35 pm
by donia
ucla made fewer fielding errors than we did and capitalized on most of our many errors...along with making it on base with piddly bouncers from the front of the plate and clutch execution on bunts.
they scored 3 runs fewer last night than they scored the entire series leading up to last night. aside from the clutch squeeze bunt and a couple of gap balls, they scored due to (and during) fielding errors (boots, bobbles and taking eye off of ball trying to scoop and throw) and throwing errors (offline, too hurried and in the dirt).

congrats to the 2013 diamond dawgs!!

.... and to ucla for their first baseball championship in school history, i'm sure it's been tough to walk by for decades and all other sports' shelves to be packed with nc trophies and their's to be barron...

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:47 pm
by davidees
donia wrote:ucla made fewer fielding errors than we did and capitalized on most of our many errors...along with making it on base with piddly bouncers from the front of the plate and clutch execution on bunts.
they scored 3 runs fewer last night than they scored the entire series leading up to last night. aside from the clutch squeeze bunt and a couple of gap balls, they scored due to (and during) fielding errors (boots, bobbles and taking eye off of ball trying to scoop and throw) and throwing errors (offline, too hurried and in the dirt).

congrats to the 2013 diamond dawgs!!

.... and to ucla for their first baseball championship in school history, i'm sure it's been tough to walk by for decades and all other sports' shelves to be packed with nc trophies and their's to be barron...
And they behaved like champions afterwards. Classy bunch.

Re: Frustrating

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:08 pm
by donia
i told my wife that it looked like most of the infield grew up in travel ball....that or they've been coached phenominally. to me it looked like there had been an enorumous amount of repetition at each position - the kind of repetition you don't get to do in highschool and college ball (regulations on number of practice days). not one infield ground ball was thrown off course or in the dirt...every throw was almost by the book - retrieve ball, set feet, step, throw.
makes more sense now what the mvsu players from cali were saying about competition to play...at the valley, they know they will play and they get a free ride to play ball. back home they may be 3rd string, due to a deeper talent pool.