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driveby wrote:This all reminds me of how I hunt resident canadas.

I was waiting on that.

Unfortunately, I was thinking about this dumb booty thread yesterday while mowing my yard. I just wanted to bring something to day break's attention, along with his buddy Walter, and maybe a few others just for general knowledge. Timik is very, very potent. Not only will it kill whatever ingests it, it can continue to kill whatever eats the animal it killed 1st, and so on. So, in yall's brilliant attempt to kill "wild" dogs, coons, coyotes, possums, etc. that would eat your ducks, you may have gone as far as endangering the lives of the hunting dogs that the idiots that will hunt there this fall. What if early in the morning while mo-mo is putting on his waders, he lets his dog out to piss before wading out to whistle up, I mean call in, some mallards and his dog eats on a coon that was killed directly or indirectly from eating one of yall's Timik hotdogs? When his dog gets sick and dies, how good do you think that idea was now? Just wondering.

So, when yall inform the goofballs that lease this place that they aren't hunting wild mallards, you might want to tell them yall treated the place with Timik and to keep their dogs on a leash. That might keep yall out of at least one lawsuit.

I actually had a dream last night that I had an absolutely amazing duck hunt. Our group shot all greenheads, they worked perfectly, it was awesome. The funny thing is that all the ducks we shot had clipped toes. This thread is officially invading my dreams!

arduckslayer wrote:Unfortunately, I was thinking about this dumb booty thread yesterday while mowing my yard. I just wanted to bring something to day break's attention, along with his buddy Walter, and maybe a few others just for general knowledge. Timik is very, very potent. Not only will it kill whatever ingests it, it can continue to kill whatever eats the animal it killed 1st, and so on. So, in yall's brilliant attempt to kill "wild" dogs, coons, coyotes, possums, etc. that would eat your ducks, you may have gone as far as endangering the lives of the hunting dogs that the idiots that will hunt there this fall. What if early in the morning while mo-mo is putting on his waders, he lets his dog out to piss before wading out to whistle up, I mean call in, some mallards and his dog eats on a coon that was killed directly or indirectly from eating one of yall's Timik hotdogs? When his dog gets sick and dies, how good do you think that idea was now? Just wondering.

So, when yall inform the goofballs that lease this place that they aren't hunting wild mallards, you might want to tell them yall treated the place with Timik and to keep their dogs on a leash. That might keep yall out of at least one lawsuit.

In regards to the Temik I remember Bob Oliveri telling me about this case he worked on a few years ago. Hope them fellows don't accidently kill a bald eagle. It gets pretty expensive. Article below:


On Monday, Feb. 13, 2006, a two-year joint investigation conducted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Office of Law Enforcement, the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, and the Environmental Protection Agency the concluded with the sentencing of Alfred Craft of West Monroe, Louisiana, for the killing of an American Bald Eagle.

"This excellent investigation involved hundred of hours of work by the U. S. Attorney's Office, Criminal Investigators of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Wildlife Officers and Arkansas State Plant Board Inspectors." said Robert T. Oliveri, Resident Agent in Charge of Arkansas, Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi. ?U. S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright sent a clear message that the indiscriminate killing of wildlife by the use of poison and tampering with witnesses in an attempt to conceal the crime will not be tolerated in Arkansas.?

The investigation began on February 10, 2004. Arkansas Game and Fish Officers received information about a possible wildlife poisoning on Craft 's Izard County, Arkansas farm. The officers investigated and found several dead animals, including vultures. They reported this information to Special Agent Kevin Wood of the Fish and Wildlife Service?s Office of Law Enforcement in Little Rock. Special Agent Wood and the other investigators obtained and executed a search warrant the next day and located deer and duck carcasses and sardines, all three laced with Temik in order to poison meat-eating predators such as the eagle and vultures.

After sending the Bald Eagle remains to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Forensic Laboratory, Forensic Scientists determined that the deadly agricultural pesticide named Temik was found in the stomach of the bald eagle. Temik is a powerful poison that is normally used on agricultural fields and crops such as rice, corn and citrus to kill insects. Temik is extremely toxic to birds and mammals and is so dangerous that its use is restricted by law.

On August 5, 2004 a Federal Grand Jury indicted Craft on seven counts which included violations of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act, Federal, Insecticide and Fungicide and Rodenticide Act as well as charges of tampering with a federal witness. On March 8, 2005, Craft pled guilty to violating the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Bald and Eagle Protection Act but pled not guilty to charges of violating the Federal, Insecticide and Fungicide and Rodenticide Act as well as to three counts of witness tampering. On July 14, 2005, after a lengthy trial before a federal jury, prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff LaVicka, Craft was convicted of witness tampering. Rather than being released on bond to await sentencing U. S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright viewed Craft as a danger and ordered him to be detained in jail until sentencing.

On February 13, 2006, Craft was sentenced to serve five years in federal prison, fined $50,000.00, ordered to pay $11,000.00 restitution to the State of Arkansas and sentenced to pay the $23,000.00 per year cost to the taxpayer for his incarceration.

all my ducks were still around today. lost 4 in transport from stress. still have 427. no dead ducks found from last night. these "nite guard lites" seem to be working well.

beginning harvest wide open in the delta.
do you boys have a job?

day break wrote:just bought 400 of my own ducks. putting them in a break between hwy 61 and the river. want get more specific than that cause i don't want my ducks seeing any more humans than me. i will set up my duck project the same as above . my ducks are 8.5 weeks old and cost a good bit more. set up my lights, cleared a couple of feeding spots and bought some feed. they hit the water almost flying. i must get them use to this break in a hurry or i will lose them. the man told me it is risky to put a duck this old out. they may leave looking for food. still need to get some dog traps. have a good one.

day break wrote:all my ducks were still around today. lost 4 in transport from stress. still have 427. no dead ducks found from last night. these "nite guard lites" seem to be working well.

beginning harvest wide open in the delta.
do you boys have a job?

first off sounds like you don't know how many you have unless i'm missing something? and next, i'm not gonna bash what your doing even though i don't agree with it. but had duck HUNTING gotten to the point for you that killing a limit is all that matters anymore? do you even get joy out of sitting in the field/timber and just watching the sunrise, and shooting the $#!+ with some friends that you'll carry memories with to the grave? If all the things that make hunting so special other than killing aren't even important anymore, then why don't you save thousands of dollars and go on a tammie shoot or even take that money and get hooked up with someone who can put you on ducks for killing and start working on "bucket list" ideas?

it just sounds to me that if your to the point that shooting tame ducks/ transported ducks is what matters then maybe your missing the boat as to what hunting really is all about?

ain't tryin to sound harsh just asking some simple questions, to see what your personal reasoning is?

lowbar wrote:In regards to the Temik I remember Bob Oliveri telling me about this case he worked on a few years ago. Hope them fellows don't accidently kill a bald eagle. It gets pretty expensive. Article below:

I didn't even think about that ...... bet they didn't either.

teul2 wrote:

lowbar wrote:In regards to the Temik I remember Bob Oliveri telling me about this case he worked on a few years ago. Hope them fellows don't accidently kill a bald eagle. It gets pretty expensive. Article below:

I didn't even think about that ...... bet they didn't either.

I don't think anyone who puts out poison thinks at all. Unless you are poisoning mice and rats in a confined specific area, poison is always a bad idea. There are waaaay too many variables to make it go wrong. Heck my next door neighbor killed his pug by putting rat poison out around his shed because they had a rat in it.

Plus poisoning, no matter how much you may hate what you are trying to kill, is a sh!tty, often prolonged way to die.

i put 2 and 2 together and know exactly where these brakes are because i have hunted there. And maybe the reason you have to add some pet ducks, is because there werent any wild ducks there. but if you wanted to have a penned pigeon shoot, i think they already have those in Alabama.

Why don't you just lay the pressure off those brakes for a year or two, stop overcharging people to hunt there, and do something to improve the habitat (like flood the fields around the brakes and actually leave some food for the ducks). There are some ducks, not mass concentrations, in that area. these specific holes just havent been well managed in the past, i dont know what a bunch of pet ducks is going to do other than get hunters cited for live decoys that hunt there.

GearOut wrote:i put 2 and 2 together and know exactly where these brakes are because i have hunted there. And maybe the reason you have to add some pet ducks, is because there werent any wild ducks there. but if you wanted to have a penned pigeon shoot, i think they already have those in Alabama.

What town in Sunflower county is this close to?

Y'all just stay out of there. This is going to be mine and Novacain's holes this year.

driveby wrote:Y'all just stay out of there. This is going to be mine and Novacain's holes this year.

Don't start no crap or we may have to ninja somebody!

26 pages of worthless bs. wow...

novacaine wrote:

driveby wrote:Y'all just stay out of there. This is going to be mine and Novacain's holes this year.

Don't start no crap or we may have to ninja somebody!

don't go ninjing anybody that don't need ninjing