What do y'all think of Trump?

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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:26 am

People who voted for Trump are sick and tired of nothing ever getting done in Congress except the enrichment of those in Congress and those big corporations lobbyists.
Believe me, I understand this emphatically. They are almost desperate.
The problem is they chose one of the worst people in this country to do that, just because
he stood up and told them what they wanted to hear. (and did a remarkable job of it)
Drain the swamp? This guy IS the swamp, he is from the billionaire class that already RUNS
the entire government, how on earth anyone thought that this guy is going to look out for
average americans is beyond me. He doesn't give a CRAP about americans, he is a POWER MONGER,
and the best used car salesman I have ever seen. He just is NOT the right guy for doing what you
want SOMEBODY to do.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby Wildfowler » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:39 am

If Trump is the swamp. And I can see why you and a lot of people think he is because of what he’s done in his life.

Please explain the unprecedented number of politicians not seeking reelection or any other political office. And also it’s not just politicians there is extremely high number of business executives that have resigned as well.

My belief is that these people are all interconnected and always operate on inside information and since trumps election they know their time is up. I think they know they are not going to be able to keep carving out the sweet deals to enrich themselves as long as Trump is in the office for the next eight years.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby davidees » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:51 am

And we haven’t even touched immigration and the communi- I mean, um...”progressives’” insistence on open borders and erosion of our national sovereignty so they can get more voters
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:52 am

You "believe" that, well I don't "believe" much of anything anymore without some solid evidence to support it and THEN I call it, I "think" because beliefs get people in serious trouble because they cannot shake them when they prove incorrect.
First - who exactly is resigning?
Do you have a list?
Do you have any correlations to your claim and these people's financial interest?

Second - What has Trump done to show that their actions predict this "change" that you
think is forth coming from this administration?
Please don't tell me that he stopped Pfizer from raising their prices, a 4th grader can see
through that bologna. After it happened, where did we end up? Right where we were before
it started. It's an ILLUSION and he is very good at producing these - remember who he is.

Third - And it's just an analogy - you don't clean up a messed up toilet by dipping into a bucket
full of chit to clean it. He is a narcissistic billionaire with VERY high aspirations, if he shakes things
up, do you actually think that it will all fall out without a NEW order of FILTHY rich people in control?
WHY would you think that? What reason has he given you to believe that? Because he SAID SO?
3,000 lies later, and you still believe this guy? How could you do that? BELIEF MAYBE???
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:58 am

Make no bones about it, I would be digging in Hillary's sorry booty just as deep as this guy, because I don't care which party they are from, I care about what they do. I cannot stand that woman either, she has ties all over the world just as Trump does and there is no reason to think she would not do the exact same thing given the chance, sugar coating it all with liberal oriented icing like women's rights, blah blah blah, whatever to appease the far left.

And somebody on here has got to get over this harsh bias between the supposed two factions here by name dropping the "progressives" all the time, this isn't a football game sir, there is no enemy here except the upper elite.
If you want to "believe" that progressives are the root of all evil, then do yourself a favor and have a look at what they actually want. Then tell me if those things for the most part would not benefit you in some way because we all know by now that it is not the country you are concerned about, it is YOU.

Do yourself a favor and stop labeling people like that. I am not a progressive, I cannot stand Hillary Clinton, what you do when you so casually label people like that is you leave yourself open because you are not paying attention.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby davidees » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:04 am

I’ve never been a big fan of Trump, in fact, I almost decided not to vote in the general election at all, but I’m glad I did. Trump Derangement Syndrome alone was worth it...just to see all these pinkos lose their ever loving minds...it’s getting old though, I must admit. The tantrums are beginning to get on my nerves a little. Pinkos have no dignity, no shame, no class whatsoever. I just hope the reasonable folks in the middle are taking notice. Supreme Court picks alone made this a no brainer, and they ultimately made up my mind for me. Thank God we didn’t get Hillary.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby davidees » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:13 am

YoBenny wrote:Make no bones about it, I would be digging in Hillary's sorry booty just as deep as this guy, because I don't care which party they are from, I care about what they do. I cannot stand that woman either, she has ties all over the world just as Trump does and there is no reason to think she would not do the exact same thing given the chance, sugar coating it all with liberal oriented icing like women's rights, blah blah blah, whatever to appease the far left.

And somebody on here has got to get over this harsh bias between the supposed two factions here by name dropping the "progressives" all the time, this isn't a football game sir, there is no enemy here except the upper elite.
If you want to "believe" that progressives are the root of all evil, then do yourself a favor and have a look at what they actually want. Then tell me if those things for the most part would not benefit you in some way because we all know by now that it is not the country you are concerned about, it is YOU.

Do yourself a favor and stop labeling people like that. I am not a progressive, I cannot stand Hillary Clinton, what you do when you so casually label people like that is you leave yourself open because you are not paying attention.
I pay attention alright, perhaps a little too much attention. My concern is actually the country and NOT me...but my vision of the country is one that abides by the constitution to which I swore an oath to. At every turn I see the left, yes, the left, almost all the time it’s the left doing whatever they can to undermine it. I already told you that, and you know it’s true because you don’t value it either and that is abundantly clear. What service did YOU ever give to it? What have YOU ever sacrificed for this nation? Have YOU ever put your life on hold and sacrificed all you had to serve? Don’t sit there and tell me that I don’t love this country and that my concern is ME. I gave four and a half years of my life up that I’ll never get back because of my deep love for this country, which is actually why Im as concerned as I am and why people like you make me shake my head...what do progressives want? Mostly free stuff. Who will pay for it? Me, since according to you I’m an upper 5% because I saw some benefit from the tax cuts
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:40 am

hat service did YOU ever give to it? What have YOU ever sacrificed for this nation? Have YOU ever put your life on hold and sacrificed all you had to serve?
I have never served and I thank you for your service.

Just trying to say that dividing the vote, the people, the direction of our country as is being done now
is not helping us. I'd really like to know when it was exactly that America was that "great" everybody keeps
talking about because in my lifetime it was strong education at affordable prices, good jobs building infrastructure and advancing America's technological advantages over the rest, anyone who worked also had medical for them and their families, reasonable housing rates, the G.I. bill, I guess that's as good as I've seen it.

I just haven't seen a single thing in this administrations plans that does any of those things.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:46 am

And you gotta get off of that "free" thing that stuff is so old it just makes you look silly.

Progressives do not want everything free, it's just ridiculous to say things like that.
I fully understand that what you type is what is in your head, and that is the real problem here.
The media has screwed peoples minds up IN THE MASSES so bad with misleading information that
caters to their personal biases that people can't even tell what is real anymore, and if they can,
they have no idea how to place it in it's correct position of pertinence to the overall.

This is perhaps the worst thing happening to the whole country yet almost nobody is talking about it.
They have used this technology and the unification of all the media into only a few hands to control
what America thinks by giving them whatever they want us to see. It's called propaganda and history has
shown us that even without these new tools, it can be devastating.

The end result is a highly polarized public who need to join together to stop what is happening in D.C.
But as long as they can keep people calling those they disagree with "Progressives" and "snowflakes"
and whatever else, their plan is working as it should. A glorious job they have done with it too.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby davidees » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:55 am

YoBenny wrote:And you gotta get off of that "free" thing that stuff is so old it just makes you look silly.

Progressives do not want everything free, it's just ridiculous to say things like that.
I fully understand that what you type is what is in your head, and that is the real problem here.
The media has screwed peoples minds up IN THE MASSES so bad with misleading information that
caters to their personal biases that people can't even tell what is real anymore, and if they can,
they have no idea how to place it in it's correct position of pertinence to the overall.

This is perhaps the worst thing happening to the whole country yet almost nobody is talking about it.
They have used this technology and the unification of all the media into only a few hands to control
what America thinks by giving them whatever they want us to see. It's called propaganda and history has
shown us that even without these new tools, it can be devastating.
I actually pay very little attention to the media, as they have time and time again proven themselves completely untrustworthy. I do however have sense enough to hear what lefties are saying themselves, from their own mouths, and I guess I’m old school, idk, but I tend to pay attention to things like that. I also have sense enough to know that these huge government expenditures have to be paid for by a nation $21 trillion in debt, so I wonder where the money will come from...hmmmmm....I’m guessing from the 50% tax rate that most socialist nations impose...I remember reading about a rebellion over a tax on tea once...my have times changed...we used to want the government to leave us alone and stay out of our way and now we want them to be our daddies...my, my...as for greatness, I’ve got no complaints at all, I have a very good job and healthcare has never, ever been a problem for me and my family since, you know, we work and stuff.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby davidees » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:58 am

And two sides who are so absolutely fundamentally opposed can never unite and work together. I guess the elite win again, but how can two ideologies going in two separate directions ever move the ball to the goal line? The solution is simple- founders’ constitution. The problem- the left doesn’t believe in it. Why is it the solution, though? Because with it, everyone can potentially get what they want, they just may have to move to a state that is willing to give it to them. The problem is, the left LOVES federal government and they want their beliefs imposed on the entire nation. They will not yield, they will not compromise and they will use every tool at their disposal to make it happen
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby Wildfowler » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:12 am

There are lists out there, not all of the resignations are nefarious. It’s mainly the stuff rumors and conspiracy theories are made of I’m sure.

I would encourage you to look at some of the names on these lists to answer your own questions if you don’t want to take my word for it.

Your argument about Pfizer doesn’t even make sense. If Pfizer raised their prices on a Monday, trump calls them out Monday evening, and on Wednesday Pfizer announces they will revert back to their old pricing how can you think that nothing happened?

If nothing had happened we would now be two weeks into a new higher pricing schedule from Pfizer until the next price increase.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:27 am

And two sides who are so absolutely fundamentally opposed can never unite and work together. I guess the elite win again, but how can two ideologies going in two separate directions ever move the ball to the goal line?


The answer is simple - if it were a game - which it isn't, the goal post for both teams is in the middle of the field, not on their respective end.
The problem is, the left LOVES federal government and they want their beliefs imposed on the entire nation. They will not yield, they will not compromise and they will use every tool at their disposal to make it happen
To get free stuff right? Here's an example of just how wrong you are about your ideas on this.

Number 2 largest recipient of welfare and chip program (food stamps)?
Kentucky
Ethnic breakdown - 86% white
Political allegiance - 66% conservative, 30% democratic, 4% neutral

Who is gettin all that free stuff again?

Answer: People who need it regardless of party affiliation.
So watch it with all that "progressive" and "free" association, nothing could be further from the truth.
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:44 am

If Pfizer raised their prices on a Monday, trump calls them out Monday evening, and on Wednesday Pfizer announces they will revert back to their old pricing how can you think that nothing happened?
Oh I can see something happening alright, a phone call from the Gibbon to Ian C. Read saying let's make this look like you guys are working with me and down the road we will make things more to your liking.

The bottom line is this, Phizers prices are just part of the big pharma portfolio, keep this mini chart of current pricing and how out of wack it is for Americans and wait until Trump declares he has fixed the drug pricing problem and have a look at the difference.
29-drug-prices-fb1.jpg
All of this is just smoke and mirrors to me, the solution is simple for the Gibbon, sign one document and prohibit the FDA from protecting them from global market trade, the same trade standards on common goods that fill every store in America. Stop protecting them. Damn all these grand stands. You see, Trump really isn't that "man of action" that he has sold himself as to you, he is a "man of give me some of that action".
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Re: What do y'all think of Trump?

Postby YoBenny » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:07 am

Welp Muller lays charges against 12 Russian intelligence officers accused of hacking the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton presidential campaign and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
That of course does not mean in the least that Trump nor anyone who worked with him had anything to do with it.
Oh wait, his campaign manager is in jail. 5 others have been charged.

This might end up being something historic. If they show that the Rooskies threw the election, then the results of that election are void. Yikes.......

Well I guess voter fraud and computer security need to get a face lift.......

And maybe Trump needs to build a new golf course with a prison attached to it.....
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