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[tombstone]

if you want doe killed so badly, allow oos'ers to kill doe. If population was such a problem then this jsut does not make sense.

[TODO]

Im all for it. I want those first 2 weeks in November with smokepole. I think the major hurdle is the bowhunters raising hell. I like to bowhunt too, but i would rather sling lead. Everybody wins here imo.

[duckter]

I just had a discussion with someone (with political connections) who asked my opinion of this proposal. He informed me that the guy touting this proposal has stated it would bring in a lot of out-of-state hunters/dollars and thought this was one major factor in this proposal change.

He and I both know the insurance companies have lobbied hard for us to harvest more deer. He also knows my opinion of "Primitive Weapons" (i.e., they ain't Primitive any more).

If this "out-of-state" income opportunity theory is indeed correct, do you guys think this is a "real" opportunity with the OOS'er's and are they going to bombard our state with the more liberal seasons? I wouldn't think so, but I'm just not that knowledgeable on that particular subject.

[LODI QUACKER]

Why these mods?

Who will benefit?

What are the real #'s on the dollars, not brought into the state but on the kickbacks from the insurance companies?

If you want more does gone let the OOS'ers kill em, they already do. So why not let the LA caravan start. I mean its REAL easy, there are too many deer turn the cajuns loose on em. Hell LA isnt overpoulated with deer. Take a guess why.

Make this change until the #'s are where the management wants them then change it back.

This will not be adopted for one reason SOMEBODY's POCKET IS GOING TO GET FULL IF THIS PASSES! You can bet on that.

[The Land Man]

This bill is the biggest crock of chit I have ever heard of and so are the gun hunter's that say well the bow hunter's will still have 31 day's. The way I see it is the gun hunter's already have 2 1/2 month's of the season so why do they need an extra two weeks? It's all about the money for the Department and anybody that thinks any different is a dumb booty!! Somebody please tell me why we all of a sudden need a change of our season's?

[Hambone]

This bill is the biggest crock of chit I have ever heard of and so are the gun hunter's that say well the bow hunter's will still have 31 day's. The way I see it is the gun hunter's already have 2 1/2 month's of the season so why do they need an extra two weeks? It's all about the money for the Department and anybody that thinks any different is a dumb booty!! Somebody please tell me why we all of a sudden need a change of our season's?

Well, one thing you can do is limit the gun hunting on your property no matter what the new law says. If bowhunting is a priority, keep it that way. I personally like the new law because we don't have much bowhunting going on at our places and the additional gun days provide more opportunities to hunt.

[The Land Man]

This bill is the biggest crock of chit I have ever heard of and so are the gun hunter's that say well the bow hunter's will still have 31 day's. The way I see it is the gun hunter's already have 2 1/2 month's of the season so why do they need an extra two weeks? It's all about the money for the Department and anybody that thinks any different is a dumb booty!! Somebody please tell me why we all of a sudden need a change of our season's?

Well, one thing you can do is limit the gun hunting on your property no matter what the new law says. If bowhunting is a priority, keep it that way. I personally like the new law because we don't have much bowhunting going on at our places and the additional gun days provide more opportunities to hunt.

That's not the point, the point is to not put 3 or 4 month's of gun pressure on the herd. That mean that most will be nocturnal even if I cut my place back to bow only. Can you not kill all the deer that you need to kill in 2 1/2 month's of the season we have now? What keeps you from picking up a bow and starting earlier? Why the change of season all of a sudden?

[Hambone]

This bill is the biggest crock of chit I have ever heard of and so are the gun hunter's that say well the bow hunter's will still have 31 day's. The way I see it is the gun hunter's already have 2 1/2 month's of the season so why do they need an extra two weeks? It's all about the money for the Department and anybody that thinks any different is a dumb booty!! Somebody please tell me why we all of a sudden need a change of our season's?

Well, one thing you can do is limit the gun hunting on your property no matter what the new law says. If bowhunting is a priority, keep it that way. I personally like the new law because we don't have much bowhunting going on at our places and the additional gun days provide more opportunities to hunt.

That's not the point, the point is to not put 3 or 4 month's of gun pressure on the herd. That mean that most will be nocturnal even if I cut my place back to bow only. Can you not kill all the deer that you need to kill in 2 1/2 month's of the season we have now? What keeps you from picking up a bow and starting earlier? Why the change of season all of a sudden?

I'm not sure I understand your logic. You say that "most will be nocturnal even if I cut my place back to bow only." If that's the case, then it's hunting, and not choice of arms, that makes them nocturnal.

If you say you don't want to expand the gun season because you don't want more hunters in the woods, I understand where you are coming from...I don't agree with it because I think it's selfish, but I understand it.

I'm mainly a wingshooter and it just so happens that the expanded season fills a gap between the second dove season and the duck season. That's why I like it - additional opportunity to hunt. And contrary to what some say, at least where I hunt, more days in the field with a gun are going to result in more does being taken. That's something we need in my territory.

[The Land Man]

I'm not sure I understand your logic. You say that "most will be nocturnal even if I cut my place back to bow only." If that's the case, then it's hunting, and not choice of arms, that makes them nocturnal.

No what I am saying is if the deer herd has 3 or 4 month's of gun hunting pressure on them they will be nocturnal even if I bow hunt only on my place which is 140 acres. Do you not think an extra month or two of gun season on the deer herd will make them harder or easier to kill?

[/quote]If you say you don't want to expand the gun season because you don't want more hunters in the woods, I understand where you are coming from...I don't agree with it because I think it's selfish, but I understand it.[/quote]

When did I ever say that I don't want more hunter's in the wood's? I take a lot of new people and first timer's every year!


[/quote]I'm mainly a wingshooter and it just so happens that the expanded season fills a gap between the second dove season and the duck season. That's why I like it - additional opportunity to hunt. And contrary to what some say, at least where I hunt, more days in the field with a gun are going to result in more does being taken. That's something we need in my territory.[/quote]

So basically what you are saying is that you are to lazy to pick up a bow and go hunting? You say it would be an "additional opportunity to hunt" well sir that opportunity is already there if you want it. If the state really thinks that more day's in the woods with gun's is the answer to the deer population then they are dumb and if you believe that as well then that make you dumb also. If you want more dead deer raise the limit how hard is that to understand? It's all about money, it has nothing to do with the deer herd!!

[Hambone]

Deer are largely nocturnal, whether hunted with gun or bow or not at all. Other than the fact that there are (obviously) more hunters in the woods during gun seasons, how does gun season make deer more nocturnal than they are during bow season?

I'm glad that you aren't one of those guys who supports the bow-only season in order to keep hunters out of the woods. Lots of bowhunters seem to want the woods to themselves. I think hunter participation, whether bow, gun or whatever, is extraordinarily important to the future of the sport.

I do believe that more gun days will help increase the number of deer taken more than increasing the limit. You obviously disagree, so we simply have a difference of opinion.

I also have hard time accepting the allegation that the season change is money-driven - show me some facts in support of that conclusion.

[Troublebuck]

Someone mentioned can we ever do away with ____ dog season. They would have already if it was'nt for the Mississippi Hunting Dog Association. Think about what your asking for if they get rid of dog hunting its all dogs. Duck dogs included.