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Postby Greenhead22 » Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:56 am

So let me get this straight. If 5 of us limit out one morning, then four of them leave to go to town to get some food. After they leave the warden shows up, checks me, and there are 5 limits to just me, and he's gonna write me a ticket, that's big time BS. But if you do receive mail in the club name it is considered to be a residence, luckily we have that. Over that 20 day period I put a lot of ducks in the freezer, and at the most 3 people were at the club at a given time. Just goes to show you how some of these laws are backwards.
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Postby mallardchaser » Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:12 pm

dosgris:
that's not the case according to this fed.
he said if we didn't have the people there to cover them , he coulda written us up.
i too think it's bs..
we prob would've seen him in court on that one. they were tagged.
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Postby duforester » Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:49 pm

I know when I hunt in Arkansas, we always just gut the birds and transport them home like that. I don't completely agree with the rules, but it is the law and we have to abide by them. Just my opinion. I'm sure the feds would love to catch some of you guys!!!
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Postby GulfCoast » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:54 pm

The last thing on earth I want to do is break any game law. Seems like I am always finding out about new ones that I did not know about. All you can do is try to do right, go by both the letter and spirit of the law, and keep your nose clean.
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Postby dos gris » Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:01 pm

You would probably be ok with those five limits if the ducks were tagged properly and your buddies were coming back directly.
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Postby Stano » Wed Sep 12, 2001 9:52 pm

Quick question?

How do the duck pickers in AR get away with breasting ducks they will only take a limit(with a licsen number) a day but you could have two weeks worth at the picker......So I could get a ticket for picking up frozen duck breasts from the picker......... Or is it different in AR now? I think some of the game laws in AR must have been written by the people who designed the roads JEEEESSSH! [img]images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Postby injun_23 » Wed Sep 12, 2001 11:00 pm

GC .... best reply in this string
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Postby Wildfowler » Thu Sep 13, 2001 8:56 am

Stano:

The duck pickers in AR have a license to operate their business. They log the quantity and species of the birds brought in for processing, the wardens routinely check the books. Everything is documented before the ducks are either picked or breasted out. Your duck package is then labeled with the same information, including the date they were killed.

Here's what I want to know:

If I go on a 5 day hunting trip to Bayou Meto, legally shoot the limit each day, legally have my ducks processed at a commercial duck picker. Can I legally transport them all home at the end of my trip? I am sure that the AR board of tourism is not going to promote that out of towners cut short their hunting trip simply because they have had limits on their first two days afield. But it seems that this is a big deal in AR. The way the wardens police the transportation of ducks. It doesn't seem to be as much of a problem here in MS. Perhaps we just don't get the volume of out of towners that AR experiences each year. I am sure that out of town license plates present easy targets for over zealous game wardens.

I don't want to get a ticket, but if I am going to invest the time and money into a trip to AR, I am going to hunt for 3 of 4 days in a row.

Duckwarden, would you please comment on this?
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Postby goosebruce » Thu Sep 13, 2001 8:46 pm

Possession limit is just that. What you can have on your possession. Kilt yur ducks first 2 days, easy. Eat them. 5 limits in yo truck will get you a ticket.
These aren't arkie laws, they are federal. 2 days limit is your possession limit, and it applys everywhere except at your personal residence, where you can have a possession limit for everyone that lives there, and no more.
Hey stan, any other arkansas laws you got questions on?????? Hate for any unpleasantness to ruin your return! hehe. travis
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Postby Baldpate » Fri Sep 14, 2001 6:15 am

Wildfowler, Goosebruce is right. You are only allowed to have your Poss. Limit. I hunt in Ms and Ar every year. When we are on the ducks we eat alot of ducks. We get back to the cabin and breast them and either fry or grill them at least two nights. When we leave to come home each person has the proper type of duck and the number of that poss limit on that type of duck ie. Poss limit 8 mallards 4 gadwalls. You might get away with it 100 times but if you get caught once it will cost you alot. Bottom line that is the law.Each duck has to be tagged with name and date of kill.Good luck and keep the rain coming. Later Baldpate
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Postby Dutch Dog » Fri Sep 14, 2001 8:50 pm

ok...i have read all these posts and i agree with some and disagree to some extent with others. if gh22 made an honest mistake and has actually learned from it, then so be it chalk it up as a lesson learned. i personally like having ducks around to throw on the grill during the off season. memorial day, 4th of july, etc. are examples of times i would typically like to throw a few duck breasts on the grill. if the posession limit it twice the limit then i wouldn't have enough duck breasts to last...unless i grilled 2 (1 duck's worth) of em each time i grilled out. i don't know of ANY 1 person that has stated these words..."sorry boys i can't go huntin' this morning cause i got my posession limit in my freezer" do you? I know those posession laws are put there for a reason, but they can be a little silly. What about deer? is there a posession limit on them? you can't kill a 3rd deer til you have completely eaten one of the prior 2 that you killed?...i don't think so. you can stockpile all the deer you want to as long as you don't go over the seasonal limit...aaahhhh, but here's a twist, what if you hunt deer in MS, TN, and AR and kill the legal limit in all these states....you'd need 3 or 4 freezers, but there is no posession limit, so you are still legal and you have upwards of 20 deer in your freezer (more if you get drawn for antlerless deer permits.) all this said i cant have no more than 10 ducks total in my freezer at the end of duck season, but i could have 4 freezers full of deer after deer season? something is wrong.
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Postby mississippi » Fri Sep 14, 2001 10:41 pm

but a deer isnt regulated by the feds!!
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Postby Ringbill » Fri Sep 14, 2001 11:05 pm

I sure am no game warden, but I do have a good idea about some of these laws. Like stated earlier, a possesion limit applies even in your FREEZER. I am not saying that I haven't had more than that in my freezer, but that is the law. Furthermore, if you transport breasted ducks across state lines and get caught that falls under the Federal Lacey Act, and becomes a serious Federal crime. Thus, just don't break the damn law in the first place! I work too hard studying ducks and managing habitats to have any sympathy at all for double-dippers and violators.

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Postby acornman » Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:36 am

#1. deer are not regulated by the feds..that is a given.
#2. deer breed like rabbits and most states have more deer than they need; they co-exist with human land use patterns very well. That is why you can get tags/permits/seasons to kill so many.
#3. the possession limit on ducks is there for a purpose...for example: in the MS Flyway ...ducks that leave Canada/Dakota, etc. get hunted for the entire length of their migration when the northern states' seasons open until the southern states close in late January. You are not just hunting ducks in MS during a 50 day season...it is more like 120-140 days..there are a lot of other folks shooting at the same ducks as they move around.
#4. There are 3 factors, other than habitat, associated with decline of waterfowl populations that all duck hunters should be aware of ..
A. baiting
B. over harvest/market hunting
c. use of live decoys
These factors led to the elaborate system of Flyway Councils, aerial surveys, season setting, and harvest limits we have today.

Yes, the possession limit is important! and it applies to Greenhead22 just like it applies to you and me.....acornman
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Postby Stano » Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:39 pm

After all of this said....I would be willing to bet 9 out of 10 people on this sight would be ticketed if there freezer were to be checked a week after the season ends. Of course there is alway the perfect few the internet all ways seems to foster............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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