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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:27 am
by Ducks be us
Anatidae wrote:....

now wait a minute.........a while ago, you said it was a drake.........remember?

I believe yours was a hen, with the orangish bill....his was a drake, with the yellow bill...Take em in for DNA testing, then we'll all know for sure

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:04 am
by h2o_dog
Ducks be us wrote: Mottleds LIVE on the GULF COAST. Texas, LA., and FLA. They DONT migrate
I say a mottled Katrina evacuee living in a FEMA trailer in Tallahatchie county.
(not really this one is a black)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:37 am
by GulfCoast
Mottled ducks do migrate a little. I have killed a couple in the delta. I kill them down here every week. I have killed several black ducks in my young life as well. I love all y'all, but the duck that started this thread is a freaking mottled duck!

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:25 am
by Chad Manlove
GulfCoast wrote:Mottled ducks do migrate a little. I have killed a couple in the delta. I kill them down here every week. I have killed several black ducks in my young life as well. I love all y'all, but the duck that started this thread is a freaking mottled duck!

I agree with GC and Anat....it's a mottled duck!
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:28 am
by Chad Manlove
Mottled ducks will move around. A buddy of mine killed a juvenile mottled duck in Kansas on Dec. 21st of this year! It came in with a flock of mallards. They were hunting on a big lake that was 85% frozen with ice and snow. You just never know where they might turn up.....
Re: Black Duck??????????
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:30 am
by h2o_dog
River Hunter wrote:[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/riverhunter/DSCN0371.jpg[/img]
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mottlet wrote:Figured black duck/mallard cross...showing lotsa mallard though. Not the best photo to show how dark it was.

mottlet
GulfCoast wrote:I love all y'all, but the duck that started this thread is a freaking mottled duck!

OK loverboy

, please explain (seriously, I'm no authority on this subject, so I need to learn something...but you still ain't getting my Bud light

)
I would think that the total absence of white in the speculum on Riverhunter's pics would clearly indicate black duck - whereas Mottlet's duck with the white strip in the speculum and lighter colored breast would more indicate mottled/hybrid....
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:45 am
by Chad Manlove
the white stripe on the speculum is not a dead giveaway....Motts and mallards have been cross breeding for a long time...there's plenty of hybrid Motts flying around that would have a white stripe on the speculum.
I'm looking at the basic feather coloration on its back....Motts contain feathers with that tawny brown color throughout....whereas true blacks are much darker than the one in the pic.
With all that tawny brown coloration, it just resembles a Mott more than a true black duck to me. Either way, it's a drake without a doubt due to bill color.
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:47 am
by iron grip
mottled duck or Summer mallard or black mallard or french duck:
Good picture of this guy...
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:54 am
by iron grip
Hen:
Drake in flight:
Black Duck:

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:57 pm
by Anatidae
Man......I sure have learned a lot.......you got hybreds (or is that high-breds?), ohighers, mottling on the bill, orange bills, green bills, yellow bills, and that mottled ducks are most common on the West Coast

, speculums, BuckeyeHoov's been killing God knows what up there, green feet, orange feet, inee/outee, dna testing for sex (I thought that was only useful if the duck was sexually assaulted)........GEE, the list goes-on.
The only term that hasn't surfaced in this thread is
'winky'.......but that's just because 'Wingman' hasn't posted his opinion on whether it's a drake or hen.
Interesting and informative thread, none-the-less!!
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:07 pm
by Anatidae
Ducks be us wrote:Anatidae wrote:....

now wait a minute.........a while ago, you said it was a drake.........remember?

I believe yours was a hen, with the orangish bill....his was a drake, with the yellow bill...Take em in for DNA testing, then we'll all know for sure

Actually......I think the bills on both sexes of Black Ducks is olive green.....unlike on the mallard where the drake's bill is green and the hen's is orange. And I'm pretty sure the bills on the Mottled ducks are the same color, too......greenish/yellow.
Wouldn't it be funny if we were ALL totally wrong?......how embarrassing!
I noticed something the other day that I've really paid much attention to, before.........the pattern on the bill of a hen greenwing teal looks like the pattern on the old Damascus steel shotgun barrels.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:04 pm
by GulfCoast
You know, if you play mottled ducks and certain Led Zeppelin songs backwards.....

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:56 pm
by Ducks be us
here's a link
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:23 pm
by velcro
http://www.greglasley.net/motblk.html
its a mottled duck
The brown feathers at the base of the wings on its back are the giveaway
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:17 pm
by h2o_dog
Thanks Velcro. I think I learnt somethin'. Scapulars appear to be the telltale sign...