Closing of a certain south delta wma

[deltadukman]

Panther is owned and patrolled by the Feds, usfws....Ive see state gw's in there giving out certificates....wonder why this is any different. What strikes me is the amount of gw's, biologists, upper brass, and other official folks that read this website hoping for someone to self incriminate, yet have been pretty silent on anything else regarding matters like this...

[420 racin]

Exactly!!

Ive got a question for the State guys on here. I was by a certain WMA in the south delta yesterday, it is a Corps owned moist soil mitigation area and is a "premier Waterfowl Hunting Spot" with opportunities offered by Draw hunts. There wasn't a bird on it and it looked like the ponds were all but empty of water and any kind of vegetation management. It is listed as 80% full on the website, but to me it looks like 10% or worse. Either way, what is the reasoning for not having that place 100% full and ready for ducks and hunters? You have pumps correct? (The Corps installed and fixed all the pumps a few years back if I am not mistaking) That was about the same time they built that nice fancy shop and tractor shed and bought those nice fancy tractors. Yet it isn't ready for ducks or hunters, just wondering why.

( I bet Cain Mount is in prime shape right now)

[JLT]

Y'all can get anything that you want done in this state if you will unify like the blacks. Say what you want, but it works.

[rogt108]

420,
Next time check the water control structures to see if they could hold additional water. Well, they cant. They are holding as much water as they can, as they were designed. Now, I will admit they werent designed correctly by DU.

Didnt you use to work for the corps? Did You get fired?

[Duckpro12]

The "State Guys" are right hear reading these post and choosing not to post due most of these post have false information or are misformed. I don't want to get on here and get into a argument with folks that always form there opinions before trying to get real information. Not as simple as the state taking over these CORP properties. It takes money and staff to run these facilities. It takes more money than you think to run some of these. I am last one that wants to see any closure of public hunting opportunities. I have spent blood, sweat, and tears trying to manage these areas as best as I can.

Regarding a certain WMA with no ducks or water. There is water but not to your liking 420. Believe it or not ducks can't feed in waist deep water. No sense in flooding the entire area at the beginning of the season either. All the food is gone by the time ducks are really here. You look at any well managed duck club they don't flood everything at once they do incremental flooding. That's what is done there so to have food all season. Nothing we can do about duck numbers except hope for cold up north.

I know the drawings can be frustrating at times. The goal is to provide safe and enjoyable hunting. You may disagree but I don't like hunting in the Wild West. Very hard to manage public hunters and have everybody happy.

Maybe 420 the reason why you got a ticket on a closed CORP is an adjacent land owner maybe heard the shooting and called it in or the officer heard the shooting. You want to get on here and talk bad about certain agencies but yet you have no respect for natural resources and go hunting on a closed area. That's another reason why no state folks are not responding. Have no respect for someone like you. Just like to add that I thank each person that respects the resources of MS and supports hunting. God bless and good hunting.

[stang67]

Care to comment in the Canemount references that have been made? I really wouldn't have much to complain about if the State hadn't recently purchased that place. Admittedly I don't have ALL the information, but you can't help but see that the argument that there's no money doesn't hold much water when people look at that purchase.

[davidees]

The "State Guys" are right hear reading these post and choosing not to post due most of these post have false information or are misformed. I don't want to get on here and get into a argument with folks that always form there opinions before trying to get real information. Not as simple as the state taking over these CORP properties. It takes money and staff to run these facilities. It takes more money than you think to run some of these. I am last one that wants to see any closure of public hunting opportunities. I have spent blood, sweat, and tears trying to manage these areas as best as I can.

Regarding a certain WMA with no ducks or water. There is water but not to your liking 420. Believe it or not ducks can't feed in waist deep water. No sense in flooding the entire area at the beginning of the season either. All the food is gone by the time ducks are really here. You look at any well managed duck club they don't flood everything at once they do incremental flooding. That's what is done there so to have food all season. Nothing we can do about duck numbers except hope for cold up north.

I know the drawings can be frustrating at times. The goal is to provide safe and enjoyable hunting. You may disagree but I don't like hunting in the Wild West. Very hard to manage public hunters and have everybody happy.

Maybe 420 the reason why you got a ticket on a closed CORP is an adjacent land owner maybe heard the shooting and called it in or the officer heard the shooting. You want to get on here and talk bad about certain agencies but yet you have no respect for natural resources and go hunting on a closed area. That's another reason why no state folks are not responding. Have no respect for someone like you. Just like to add that I thank each person that respects the resources of MS and supports hunting. God bless and good hunting.

And my point is we don't necessarily NEED the doggone state to come in and manage anything. If you can afford to do it, great...if not, leave statewide laws in place, leave it open to hunting, and let the gamewarden patrol it...we don't NEED or necessarily want a gubment daddy to micro manage every square inch of public land. Whatever the solution, closing it to public use should be OFF THE TABLE, PERIOD.

[hntrpat1]

But they can spend $3000/ac for prime real estate and turn it into a draw only (plus $300 if you're drawn) site. I was never opposed to the state acquiring such land, just at the expense of other public land that was already mismanaged.

I agree! Look at the amount of public DUCK HUNTING LAND in Southwest Ms. Not a whole lot! I never understood the purchase of canemount.

[teul2]

The "State Guys" are right hear reading these post and choosing not to post due most of these post have false information or are misformed.

Some one should set the people straight then. If the misinformation is so great, I'd really like to hear the facts.

And my point is we don't necessarily NEED the doggone state to come in and manage anything. If you can afford to do it, great...if not, leave statewide laws in place, leave it open to hunting, and let the gamewarden patrol it...we don't NEED or necessarily want a gubment daddy to micro manage every square inch of public land. Whatever the solution, closing it to public use should be OFF THE TABLE, PERIOD.

^^ this.

[gps4]

It takes money and staff to run these facilities. It takes more money than you think to run some of these.

Hence my question about how much money it would really take to manage the WMA in question. Seems to me that very little actually needs to be done at the one I'm referring to. Most of it is new growth hardwoods anyhow. Gravel roads are already laid and very few of the roads appear to be at risk of limbs and trees falling across that couldn't be pulled off the side if it happens. Bushhogging on the sides of the roads is nice, but not absolutely necessary. I suspect that unless there's someone in the know to enlighten us with facts and figures, it will remain a head scratcher.

[dukhntn]

Maybe 420 the reason why you got a ticket on a closed CORP is an adjacent land owner maybe heard the shooting and called it in

This is probably the case. Maybe the landowner (that the corps bought this land from in the first place?) hunts the area as his own and didn't like someone moving in on his honey hole.

[ScottyLee]

It takes money and staff to run these facilities. It takes more money than you think to run some of these.

Hence my question about how much money it would really take to manage the WMA in question. Seems to me that very little actually needs to be done at the one I'm referring to. Most of it is new growth hardwoods anyhow. Gravel roads are already laid and very few of the roads appear to be at risk of limbs and trees falling across that couldn't be pulled off the side if it happens. Bushhogging on the sides of the roads is nice, but not absolutely necessary. I suspect that unless there's someone in the know to enlighten us with facts and figures, it will remain a head scratcher.

arent' the main roads through here maintained by the county? the levee road is a county road correct? could be wrong but if it is a county road then the MDWFP doesn't even maintain that.

[Wingman]

Panther is owned and patrolled by the Feds, usfws....Ive see state gw's in there giving out certificates....wonder why this is any different. What strikes me is the amount of gw's, biologists, upper brass, and other official folks that read this website hoping for someone to self incriminate, yet have been pretty silent on anything else regarding matters like this...

If I had an answer, I'd tell you. But I've heard nothing but rumors myself. If you think I have enough time this time of year to sit on Ducksouth and wait for someone to incriminate themself, you are wrong. I barely have enough time to go home and take a poop.

[JaMak84]

Panther is owned and patrolled by the Feds, usfws....Ive see state gw's in there giving out certificates....wonder why this is any different. What strikes me is the amount of gw's, biologists, upper brass, and other official folks that read this website hoping for someone to self incriminate, yet have been pretty silent on anything else regarding matters like this...

If I had an answer, I'd tell you. But I've heard nothing but rumors myself. If you think I have enough time this time of year to sit on Ducksouth and wait for someone to incriminate themself, you are wrong. I barely have enough time to go home and take a poop.

Thought y'all just pooped in the woods like the bears

[Wingman]

I used to but somebody called in and complained that I stunk up the whole south end of DNF so I go home now.