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Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:05 pm
by feedcall
I have killed lots of deer with rages. I have never experienced the problems mentioned and I have never seen a blood trail like the rage leaves. I guess we can help each other on this forum with things like this, but I have shot them all and I will never switch from the 2 blade rage unless a bigger 2 blade rage comes out. I had a couple of holes the size of a tennis ball last year. It truly flies like a field point.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:20 pm
by duramax
feedcall wrote:I have killed lots of deer with rages. I have never experienced the problems mentioned and I have never seen a blood trail like the rage leaves. I guess we can help each other on this forum with things like this, but I have shot them all and I will never switch from the 2 blade rage unless a bigger 2 blade rage comes out. I had a couple of holes the size of a tennis ball last year. It truly flies like a field point.
I think the biggest issue people bring up with them is that they are a one-and-done broadhead. Rarely can you actually use them twice. At $15 each, that's tough pill to swallow.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:32 pm
by Bonecollecter1111
i have a thunderhead 100 grain that i hope to put through its tenth deer this weekend!!! its been on a couple of diffferant arrows that have been broken off, but it still spins true and will shave hair, so its good to go another round

i don't know if that any kind of record, but it will be for me.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:33 pm
by hillhunter
duramax wrote: I think the biggest issue people bring up with them is that they are a one-and-done broadhead. Rarely can you actually use them twice. At $15 each, that's tough pill to swallow.

It may be to some folks, but for 15 bucks not to trail a deer all over God's creation for six hrs.... yea $15 is a pretty good deal not to do that.

I really don't see the big debate. I use the three blade rages and have had a pass through all but once and she still only ran 60 yards before piling up. I always had trouble with muzzys. I lost more deer with them and thunderheads than anything. I have been thinking of trying the slick tricks, but not so much because the rages have not been working, more just to go back to a fixed blade if it will shoot true. Might buy me a pack today if I can, since my rages are worn out from last year, ha!

There is this same thread in the deersouth forum and just like a couple have said on there.... get your bow right, practice and wait for a good shot and its not really gonna matter what you shoot. Don't shoot a deer quartering towards you at forty yards and expect results, then blame it on something other than yourself for taking that shot.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:43 pm
by Trappey
hillhunter wrote:
duramax wrote: I think the biggest issue people bring up with them is that they are a one-and-done broadhead. Rarely can you actually use them twice. At $15 each, that's tough pill to swallow.

It may be to some folks, but for 15 bucks not to trail a deer all over God's creation for six hrs.... yea $15 is a pretty good deal not to do that.

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+1. I will spend $15 a deer to know that I got the largest hole possible when it comes to shooting/recovering a big deer.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:52 pm
by ACEINTHEHOLE
Which is a better broadhead....muzzy....that being said you really need to buy several packs to find 3 that will shoot consistent, but they are great once you do get a couple that will shoot. I will be shooting one rage this year because I have it left, then will be shooting whatever I have in my bag that I was given last year. Thunderheads used to be great, but not any more, it got to where they would not fly tru a couple years ago and I left them.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:32 pm
by wildhorse2
If you plan on shooting small deer the rage works ok. I experienced first hand it will not go through a 250+ lb deer if you get to close to the shoulder. to answer your question I shoot MX3 muzzys now I got 3 packs for like 64 bucks. I was lucky they flew good with zero tuning. If you want to try rage I got a pile of them I would part with.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:38 pm
by duramax
hillhunter wrote:
duramax wrote: I think the biggest issue people bring up with them is that they are a one-and-done broadhead. Rarely can you actually use them twice. At $15 each, that's tough pill to swallow.

It may be to some folks, but for 15 bucks not to trail a deer all over God's creation for six hrs.... yea $15 is a pretty good deal not to do that.
That's true, but you can get equally good kill ratios as well as efficient kills and great blood trails with SlickTricks for less $, and they are reusable. As you said, you were going to try out the SlickTricks. I do highly recommend them. Any deer I've killed that didn't die in 10 seconds and drop on 100 yard, was due to my own doing. They wouldn't have died any quicker with any other brand of broadhead.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:57 pm
by tombstone
wildhorse2 wrote:If you plan on shooting small deer the rage works ok. I experienced first hand it will not go through a 250+ lb deer if you get to close to the shoulder. to answer your question I shoot MX3 muzzys now I got 3 packs for like 64 bucks. I was lucky they flew good with zero tuning. If you want to try rage I got a pile of them I would part with.
how many and how much?

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:45 pm
by southernmallard
Anyone tried the Grim Reapers?

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:56 am
by wellgood
All it takes is for a mechanical to fail one time on the right deer to change your outlook forever.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:19 am
by jdbuckshot
duramax wrote:
hillhunter wrote:
duramax wrote: I think the biggest issue people bring up with them is that they are a one-and-done broadhead. Rarely can you actually use them twice. At $15 each, that's tough pill to swallow.

It may be to some folks, but for 15 bucks not to trail a deer all over God's creation for six hrs.... yea $15 is a pretty good deal not to do that.
That's true, but you can get equally good kill ratios as well as efficient kills and great blood trails with SlickTricks for less $, and they are reusable. As you said, you were going to try out the SlickTricks. I do highly recommend them. Any deer I've killed that didn't die in 10 seconds and drop on 100 yard, was due to my own doing. They wouldn't have died any quicker with any other brand of broadhead.
listen to what this man is saying,


i have a blood covered slick trick in my quiver that i shot through an elk last week. and it is still sharper than a new muzzy/rage/thunderhead right out of the pack

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:20 am
by duramax
southernmallard wrote:Anyone tried the Grim Reapers?
Check out the post in about broadheads in the Deer South Forum. Few folks have mentioned them:

http://www.ducksouth.com/phpbb/viewtopi ... 27&t=96923

I shot them for a couple seasons. They worked well for me. One of the best mechanicals I've shot. But I still have the same issues with them as I did with Spitfires and Rages. You can get replacement blades for them, but it's difficult to get them to be as good as they were when you bought them after shooting them once. Mud, blood, and other crap gets caked in all the tiny nooks and it takes 30 minutes just to clean it out, then put on the new blades. And they never seem to be the same again. It's so much easier to just buy new ones. But at 15 bucks a pop, it sucks. If I only shot a couple deer a year, it wouldn't be an issue. But shooting 5+ deer a year (and missing one or two), All I have to do with my Slicktricks is a quick rinse pop out the blades and slide in the new ones and they are good as new.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:57 am
by hillhunter
So do you fine tune your bow any with the slick tricks or do they shoot the same as a field point like a rage. The main reason I switched to them in the first place is because of this. I HATED trying to get a Muzzy tuned in.

Re: Muzzy vs Rage

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:07 am
by duramax
hillhunter wrote:So do you fine tune your bow any with the slick tricks or do they shoot the same as a field point like a rage. The main reason I switched to them in the first place is because of this. I HATED trying to get a Muzzy tuned in.
Out of the box they shot just like my field points. Didn't have to do a thing. Once you get you hands on some you'll see why. They are absolutely solid. Once you put them together, there is no play in them at all. When you compare them to other fixed blades, take Muzzy's for instance, the tip is one piece that has to screw on after you slide the blades in, and they kind of wiggle unless the tip is tightened all the way. If any dirt or debris gets on the threading of the tip, or the tip is slightly off, the broadhead is not balanced. SlickTricks are a solid steel body, that has the blades lock together and slide into place. Once in, they don't move. It is a precise fit. This makes them perfectly balanced and consistent.