Scatters draw

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Re: Scatters draw

Postby amwoodIE » Wed May 19, 2010 5:08 pm

THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby bowhunter49 » Wed May 19, 2010 5:17 pm

I am a friend of Don Miller and an old man. I think the Duck Hunting communitte owes Don Miller and the other folks that got involved a big thank you, for your time and efforts for all of us. A little bit of history and a legecy of the sport we love may be saved as we know it at the scatters, to be passed down to our children. So they to can enjoy the thing we love so much duck hunting. Thank you for all your efforts, you are truly soldiers for our sport. We may have won this, but the war may not be over. Write your congressman and senators and let them know how you feel. It is ruled by politices, and thats the way you win battles. Again thank you.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby gator » Wed May 19, 2010 5:34 pm

good job mark and everyone else. and, there's no one here that is as jaded toward our department as i am, but i THANK THEM FOR LISTENING.

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Re: Scatters draw

Postby Don Miller » Wed May 19, 2010 5:40 pm

Thanks, but I was only one of many that had a hand in this. I'd like to thank Po Monkey Lounger, R.L. James, JB Free, Bigwater, .tadpole, Chevy, deltaduckman, Dalton, The Winona Crew who don't post on this board, Lodi Quacker and many others that worked behind the scenes and wrote letters expressing their thoughts and concerns to the MDWF&P heads.

Now is not the time to pat each other on the back but to keep lobbying. There could be another hearing if enough private landowners and the public in favor of a draw request it. Freelace hunting opportunities in the Scatters aren't quite set in stone just yet.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby RiverDuck » Wed May 19, 2010 5:51 pm

Although I am very happy of the outcome I can see this thing taking a turn for the worse next year with the no wake nazi's whining to the MDWFP. Not causing a wake is extremely subjective, especially when all things are considered(type of boat/load/etc.). I reallyhope it works out for you guys, for everyones sake. Good job! :D
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby rjohnson » Wed May 19, 2010 6:42 pm

Kind of hard to keep a surface drive or long tail from throwing a wake even at idle speeds. I know a 31hp longtail won't go that slow. Should just call for trolling motors only and take the gas burners totally out of the equation. A lot quieter and MUCH less risk to the hunters. Or just completely keep the topwaters out and say paddles only....seriously not kidding around. That would keep the people that only hunt because it's easy to motor out and skybust away.

But regardless good job by DM and the others who attended. And GREAT job by the department to listen to people who use the place. I told myself I would never hunt there again after the boat race that took place at 5am the morning I went. Jumping a beaver dam three boats wide in the dark is not my idea of a great place to hunt or a good time.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby mbm » Wed May 19, 2010 8:15 pm

[quote="bowhunter49"]I am a friend of Don Miller and an old man. I think the Duck Hunting communitte owes Don Miller and the other folks that got involved a big thank you, for your time and efforts for all of us. A little bit of history and a legecy of the sport we love may be saved as we know it at the scatters, to be passed down to our children. So they to can enjoy the thing we love so much duck hunting. Thank you for all your efforts, you are truly soldiers for our sport. We may have won this, but the war may not be over. Write your congressman and senators and let them know how you feel. It is ruled by politices, and thats the way you win battles. Again thank you.[/quote]
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby mbm » Wed May 19, 2010 8:16 pm

This man is spot on!!!!!!!!
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby greenheadgrimreaper » Wed May 19, 2010 8:48 pm

I said it before when we had our issues with the MDWFP-I am still proud to call them MY department of wildlife fisheries and parks. I'm always a skeptic, however. BUT it's a start. Kudos to Don and the crew AND understanding MDWFP officials.

My last letter I wrote in to Larry about this subject ended saying(not quoted): When my father died we buried him and his legacy. By definition legacy is what you leave behind. What did he leave me? A passion for the outdoors and another generation of family that will be in the woods and marsh for years to come-Lord willing. I hope to leave the same for mine. But I ask you, Mr. Castle, with the implementation of a draw and future draws to come; what legacy do YOU and the current administration intend to leave behind? One of limited opportunity that is a direct result of thinking inside the box? Or a legacy of unbridled public hunting opportunities with laws and ethics rules that show we tried before we quit?

And for the record I've been quoted before as saying a self governing system of some type should be implemented on state lands; with a system of checks and balances put in place in order to let outdoorsmen and women police ourselves. Nobody wants to be the shame of the marsh and if hunter safety and/or the older generations(as a whole, not individually) aren't teaching ethics then the long arm of the PEOPLE should.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby LODI QUACKER » Thu May 20, 2010 4:32 am

[quote="rjohnson"]Kind of hard to keep a surface drive or long tail from throwing a wake even at idle speeds. I know a 31hp longtail won't go that slow. Should just call for trolling motors only and take the gas burners totally out of the equation. A lot quieter and MUCH less risk to the hunters. Or just completely keep the topwaters out and say paddles only....seriously not kidding around. That would keep the people that only hunt because it's easy.


If that is so about a 31, or any other motor, people will need to use another rig when they hunt there. That is simple.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby mudsucker » Thu May 20, 2010 5:16 am

:arrow: Good job, fellows. I had to come back out to work and am in Nawlins now or I would have been there too.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby rjohnson » Thu May 20, 2010 7:34 am

LODI QUACKER wrote:
rjohnson wrote:Kind of hard to keep a surface drive or long tail from throwing a wake even at idle speeds. I know a 31hp longtail won't go that slow. Should just call for trolling motors only and take the gas burners totally out of the equation. A lot quieter and MUCH less risk to the hunters. Or just completely keep the topwaters out and say paddles only....seriously not kidding around. That would keep the people that only hunt because it's easy.


If that is so about a 31, or any other motor, people will need to use another rig when they hunt there. That is simple.


If trolling motors only then any boat will be fine. Just think how peaceful and quiet it would be for everyone. Racing to a hole in the dark is extremely dangerous and simply retarded. I'll never do that again. But addressing the draw issue is the topic at hand. Hopefully the ones who showed up will make the difference.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby crow » Thu May 20, 2010 9:32 am

Now, it is also time that those who hunt the Scatters to "politely" and "positively" help educate those who violate the rules. It won't hurt, when someone violates the no wake rule, to take the time and effort to go over and have a session (and I do mean polite and positive) and explain the problems with what they did and why it will ruin hunting for everyone. Tell them how close they came to losing the right to show up and hunt. Sure, some folks will be buttheads, but some will appreciate the effort, too. At least you will be able to say you tried!

Good job to those who chose to take part in the conversation. And, ain't it a great thing to be able to do that in a representative democracy where you actually have a voice. Never loose sight of that...this ain't just about duck hunting, you know.

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Re: Scatters draw

Postby JB Free » Thu May 20, 2010 12:40 pm

I am glad that it worked in our favor this time, however it is by no means over, the thing i came away with that impressed me the most was the board, it is great that we have private citizens watching over things, they asked questions to better understand our issues and made me beleive that they had the sportsman's intrest in mind. I think in the future we should include letters to them when we have an issue. I know the department made the suggestion that they take another year to evaluate the draw for the scatters, but the reason they did that was because they heard from the people, so everyone needs to know that they have a voice and be ready because it will come back up in some form. There was one person who spoke in support of the draw, he hunts private land in and around the scatters, i also hunt private property in the scatters and would actually benefit from the draw with less people around to compete with, but I worry about my kids not having the luxury to join a club or purchase a lease, we need to make sure that just because something might make our next duck season better, that it doesn't have a negative affect on the season twenty years from now.
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Re: Scatters draw

Postby mbm » Thu May 20, 2010 1:51 pm

Trolling moters and small junk will not work in the scatters.I have been hunting their all my life and all you can do now is be respectfull of others, talk to others that beat you to the landing and see were they are hunting. Don't act like a jack axx because you will have to give your rig some gas to git over dam and off stumps. Main thing is quit acting like jack axx,s.

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