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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:03 pm
by JMallard
There are probaly half the number of rifle hunters today than there were even 10 years ago. The hunting poplulation is going way down. We bow hunt 90% of the time, but I can still see why we have to have rifle season. It keeps the masses interested and pays for some of the mgt on that WMA we all like.
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:10 pm
by camlock
JMallard wrote:There are probaly half the number of rifle hunters today than there were even 10 years ago. The hunting poplulation is going way down. We bow hunt 90% of the time, but I can still see why we have to have rifle season. It keeps the masses interested and pays for some of the mgt on that WMA we all like.
I am not opposed whatsoever to gun hunting, but in the subject of public land...when they open gun season on a piece of property in a state that has no restriction to number of license hunters, it cause problems. Basically they can't control how many guns are on a place. Naturally it's not a daily problem b/c not every human hunts and not every human hunts the same property. But for instance, I have hunted Copiah Co WMA for several years. It is 6k acres and until this season has had a restricted gun seasonl. Now that they've open up full gun season that parallel state season dates, whether they restrict it to muzzleloader(4570's too) and shotguns or not, they can't legally prevent a major overload of guns in the woods. It's dumb in my opinion, they are screwing the place up...gun hunting is not the issue, leases with a limited number of member hunting at any given time and whatever is perfectly fine...and the restrictions on open land are in my mind the way to replicate that...opening it up is a can of worms...no one can argue that no matter how much gun hunting is favored and all that, too much in one area is bad for the game and the hunters...
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:51 am
by mottlet
I didn't realize that whitetails were an endangered species in Miss. and the herd could only handle the minimal pressure placed on it by bowhunters.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:23 am
by Triple Gobble
I will be gun hunting sat. for deer, but season is also open on walkers, begals, and any other deer running $hit eaters..... hunters who hunt behind dogs are lazy and have no respect for the outdoors......
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:55 am
by camlock
mottlet wrote:I didn't realize that whitetails were an endangered species in Miss. and the herd could only handle the minimal pressure placed on it by bowhunters.

shut up!
U wanna borrow my $#!+ stirrer next time?
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:59 am
by camlock
Triple Gobble wrote:I will be gun hunting sat. for deer, but season is also open on walkers, begals, and any other deer running $hit eaters..... hunters who hunt behind dogs are lazy and have no respect for the outdoors......
That's taking it a bit far bud! My grandfathers and many men I respect hunted with dogs b4 the decline and to say those men were lazy and had no respect for the outdoors is stupid

. One mans ideas of hunting and sport are not law for every man, and while there are disrespectful people in every avenue of life...stereotypes are a disease. There are many lazy and disrespectful hunters packing a high powered rifles into the woods Sat and shooting up a muck, but that doesn't make every gun hunter that guy...
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:09 am
by chopper30
Widowmaker, I can't wait till this weekend!

Every curve we come around on gravel you better be ducking, cause you just don't know what redneck is going to be waiting on the dogs to run one across the road. Not to mention the dogs that are going to be screwing us up on our bow stands.... And we want even talk about the road riders... Last weekend being youth weekend and an excuse to have a rifle killed deer, had the road hunters creeping down the gravel everywhere. Followed on guy for like 5 miles, with out ever hitting the gas. He was creeping and wouldn't let me pass him, I'm guessing he didn't want me to run the deer off the road.
Let me ask this. If I catch a dog running deer through my private property, tie him up to a tree, and when his owner gets there file an affidavit for trespassing, is this considered entrapment? After all his dog and him letting it out started it... Any lawyers here?
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:12 am
by camlock
chopper30 wrote:Let me ask this. If I catch a dog running deer through my private property, tie him up to a tree, and when his owner gets there file an affidavit for trespassing, is this considered entrapment? After all his dog and him letting it out started it... Any lawyers here?
That may not be entrapment, but that certainly would make you a peepee!

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:18 am
by chopper30
camlock wrote:chopper30 wrote:Let me ask this. If I catch a dog running deer through my private property, tie him up to a tree, and when his owner gets there file an affidavit for trespassing, is this considered entrapment? After all his dog and him letting it out started it... Any lawyers here?
That may not be entrapment, but that certainly would make you a peepee!

Excuse my language, but F that!!!! I'm a peepee for not wanting those mangy deer running dogs coming across my property???? What about the sob that let them out on his 30 acres of land knowing they were going to come through my property? He must be an upstanding citizen huh??? Would you rather I just laugh it off? How about file an affidavit against the dog, I bet that would hold up in court... I sure ain't gonna shoot a man's dog, so just what would be the solution short of putting a fence around the place?
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:23 am
by camlock
Chill out man...I was joking...to tie up a dog and file tresspassing charges agaisnt the man when he comes to get him would make you an booty....HAHA funny freaking joke...I understand where your coming from and it is what it is so might as well laugh it off and do what you can and enjoy the woods...
Be thankful you got a freaking place to hunt! Trust me I don't...it could be worse than a dog running across your property!
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:46 am
by chopper30
Well come on and hunt with widowwhacker and myself this weekend
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:49 am
by tombstone
When I hunted on O keefe WMA & Malmaison in the late 80's, I remember it being a nightmare. There were people everywhere and it did not seem like there was any kind of restricted season then. It just paralleled state seasons. I know that O Keefe now has a lot of restricted seasons.
I also remember being 8 or 9yrs old and getting up at 3:30 to drive 1hour and 20 minutes to got o holly springs national forest and see nothing but packs and packs of dogs and three wheelers with cb radios mounted to them.
Camlock, I don't like dog hunting but I certainly agree that there are some that still respect others and do it right. I feel sorry for them, because as Chopper eluded to, there are a bunch that give them a bad rap.
Just like with anything else, there will be different opinions, but with the way things are politically, we all bette learn to stick together
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:07 am
by camlock
chopper30 wrote:Well come on and hunt with widowwhacker and myself this weekend
I would certainly do that, I need more hunting partners that only bowhunt...but I stepped on a nail and it went through my foot and I can't walk

So I can't hunt to this heals and I can get around, if I had anywhere to hunt!

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:11 am
by chopper30
Well that's your lose. Widowwhacker and I are going to fling arrows at whatever deer the orange army lets come by us.
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:17 am
by waterfowlwidowmaker
Camlock, I will personally see that chopper carries you on his back to your stand each morning and comes and gets you after the hunt. He may look weak, but he is getting stronger since he has hired this new personal trainer. Chopper and I will be filming each other all weekend so hopefully the gun toting redbones won't shoot all our deer.