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Postby LabLuvR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 4:32 pm

The world is coming to a friggin END!! Is Benny being nice????? What is da motive Ol Salty? [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_cool.gif[/img] Inquiring minds want to know???

Btw, your post on the Delta Wildlife do make "some" sense for someone who occasionally has none. Being an OOS who has never even hunted in your great stateI would still send a few bucks if the majority of fellas here feel that it is beneficial to ya'll! Seems like a great deal for farmers and ducks and I do LOVE em both!!!! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 4:56 pm

Well somebody came over to my site and said:

"ALL THE VULGARITY!!"

So I give a fair shake and thunk about it.

So what if it don't mean nuttin to ME, it do mean sumtim to THEM. You tryin to help them, then what you doin freakin them out and then you don't help nuttin? Maybe you don't freak people out so much they might listen to yo dip chit ass a few moments longer eh??

OK I thunk, I'll give that a whirl, but I wanna tell you that this business of not being able to say whut I wanna say is HARD!!!

I feel much more myself when I can say it like this:

ALL I'm tryin to TELL you is that you supposed to Image be doing this YOURSELF Image and if you aint got no Image ducks then it's YO Image fault and here is what you can do about it Image and that's a fact you little no good Image piece of Image !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fortunately I've found solice in some smilies, I collected up quite a collection off the web and they should be added to the mix here to help us express without the conviction!!!

It's fun and it don't hurt nobody jest like the old days!

I HATE TWIRLIES!! Image
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:03 pm

I hate skybusters! Image

Have I Gotta Duck Lease For YOU! Image

You ugly and yo mamma wears army boots! Image

Better WATCH IT there popscicle breath! Image
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Postby LabLuvR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:51 pm

Benny,

I'm gonna be reeeeeeeeal careful what I say here. You put out some pretty good stuff about conservation, ducks and beavers. It's a
shame that some of your advice goes unheard because of the method you haven chosen in the past to deliver it.

I'm gonna give you a little South Cackalacky advice even though ya didn't ask. Not that I really care either. The old saying that you get more with sugar than honey is as true as the theory that to have ducks you have to provide for em and not shoot the heck out the hole every blasted minute of the day.

You wanna preach about religion...fine, ya wanna preach about anything but ducks then do it on YOUR website in any fashion you so damn well please. You want to get people's ear here and have them "consider" some of the stuff you suggest then YOU have to play their game and by their rules. Don't like it fine. There are other places such as your own website to speak in whatever fashion you choose.

If.......if you are sincerely interested in teaching and promoting then do it here, but play by the rules. Seems like you may be headed in the right direction. I think you have some major bridge rebuilding to do first. I guess it's your choice in what you want to accomplish. Piss off everbody and the message is ignored totally,along with your time. Orrrrrr, play the game and see what a difference you "MAY" be able to make.
I'm kinda hopin ya play the game.

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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:31 pm

You know LL I am what I am, and thats all I am.

I moved that way and I aint real sure why you felt like scolding me as if I didn't, but I moved that way LL.

Thats a hard move for me, and I didn't do it because I think any of you can help me do one damn thing with the ducks and you should think about that a little bit in between telling me I play with too many jokers.

I'm not rebuilding bridges that were never there. You dont get to have a bridge to me just because you talk to me on a talk forum.

There never was a bridge I just yelled across the gap but I must say that is so ironic since I was abouth the THIRD person to ever post on this forum and you got a fine mind to be tellin ME suthin about seniority.

But be that as it may, I will agree that I can get pissed off at people sometimes, view things as hopeless, and tell them all to stick it where the sun don't shine. Then beat up on their values that I think caused them to arrive at hopeless. Yes I do that occasionally. It's fraustration because I can see this wall but I cannot tear it down.

Finally I say AWE *&%# IT I'm gonna blast some ass........

When I get to there you either want egg on your face or you dont, it's up to you.

I didn't post that lookin to do one damn thing but help you men, but I get scolded for trying to do so.

Sometime I just want to peel the top of my skull back and eat my own brain out..

This is not kindergarden. If you want your bread with the crust cut off then I aint the person to do it. I'm serious about this stuff and I can mind my manners but you don't tell me that I will mind them before you listen to sound conservation or I will kick your ass for it because you deserve it.

I said that I am a worker and I meant it.
I dont want to play office games, if that is what you feel comfy with them by all means do so.

I challenge rules because sometimes they lock us into hopeless stupidity. I try to help in doing so. You cant tell an enemy from a friend can you?

I'm not trying to MAKE a difference in here, I'm already MAKING MINE.

I want YOU to make a difference dad gummitt!

"Yeah but you didn't say it right you supposed to say Simon says..."

Alright lab Luver:

Simon SAYS --- Eat A Conservation Cookie!

It also seems to me that several people around here dont share your "you gotta kiss our ass awhile" mentality and I'm sure they laughin at you thinkin I would actually do something like that.

I am what I am, and thats all that I am..

Take what you need and leave the rest will you?

You wanna "Unsubscribe me" go ahead because I've seen dumber but it aint been lately.

Thats as close as I can get to "I'm Sorry" LaB Lvr take it and run with it theres enough bridge there to make the gap.
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Postby LabLuvR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:43 pm

Nobody said you had to kiss any a@@ Benny ya nimrod! I sure as heck wasn't scolding you. I think you may be an adult, least ya looked to be pretttty dang old sittin naked on that tractor! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Get off the defensive boy and spew forth some stuff. Lighten up dude!!!!!!
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:51 pm

You aint fussin at me?

Oops --- sorry bout dat

Here have an ice cream Image

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Postby LabLuvR » Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:12 pm

Hell I ain't got that much time!!! [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:01 pm

You know, there is more than one way to skin a cat right here in our own back yards.

If you dont want to picth in or a piece of dirt for whatever reason, then just give your money to Delta Wildlife Foundation Instead.

Those boys run a tight ship. They dont have all them employees, and they lay pipes what you TALKING about. They have stopped up more water in this state than I care to guesstimate.

And they provide an EXCELLENT seed program, you can buy seed for $5/50 from them for conservation and if it hadn't been for them boys I could have never afforded to do a great deal of the stuff I've done.

They take your money and they stick it in the DIRT, right here in your back yard where it counts.

And they help the ducks too! BIG TIME!

And everything ELSE as well. They have put up God KNOWS how many wooduck boxes.

They are doing the DEAL buddy, and the money they get goes right into the dirt in YOUR back yard.

I am proud of this fact, though Trey Cook the director of DWF would probably deny it and thats fine with me.

When he was in college, he came for x-mas, one of his buddies brought him to hunt in some my first duckholes.

And they came back via the back turn road a few times. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

And I wasn't too happy about that, but looky here what that boy came back and did for all of us. He is the director of DWF, and for that, I can take a few licks. I never jumped his ass for that but I did the buddy that drug his butt up in them holes.

Gayden Pollan is their biologist and he is good salt as well. Them boys aint nuttin ABOUT no politicy stuff, even though Thad Cochran birthed DWF.

They about PIPE, about SEED, and doing things right here in our back yards that need doing. To me, THAT is where our money should go, it just doesnt make any sense to throw in some till and never see it again.

But like I said, you can do this YOURSELF.
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:19 pm

Here is the addy to their website, I aint really looked at it because I already know they do and it is GOOD STUFF.
http://www.deltawildlife.org/

They also have an Expo in Greenville every year, it's the same ole same ole that all expos are but it generates money for us right here in the Delta.

If you do DU in memphis then for God's sake at least give DWF's Expo a chance and give THEM the money one time and see if you like THAT almost as well. It's the same thing, except the money ends up in pipes in YOUR back yard. And that is a GOOD THING for duck hunters.

Their membership is only $50 dollars and I tell you what, I cannot think of a better way that ANY Mississippi Duck hunter can spend $50 unless it's to buy more bullets! [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

If it gets down to either DWF, or Bullets, then buy the damn bullets!!!!!!

But if it aint that bad, then give them boys a thumbs up, because they in your back yard busting they ASS to make more ducks for you.

And they need all the help they can get too!
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:34 pm

I'm gonna quit after this one but I just had to get to this point with this to show you guys how rewarding and how benifical it is for both us and the ducks, to do something in your back yard.

Check this chit out....... [img]images/smiles/icon_eek.gif[/img]

DWF will put pipes down for anybody who asks for them, provided that they see that it will in fact benifit the ducks, and that they sign a contract which says if they dont want to catch the water anymore, then please contact us and we will come get the pipes and put them somplace else.

Thats as FREE as pipes get gentlemen, now stay with me on this.

Farmers are ALWAYS having to fight with pipes, they are something that does an ENORMOUS amount of good on a farm before it ever helps the first duck. They cost big money, and farmers cant afford to employ them a lot of times. But they could sure them if they could afford them, to control water and to stop topsoil erosion which is a big problem in the Delta.

NOW ---------

You get yourself 10 buddies in line, do the footwork that eats up all the money when you give to DU YOURSELF. YOU TAKE THE LICK OR EXPENSE OF ORGANIZATION. You do yourself what DU promise to do for you.

THEN you find a farmer who has dirt that could be flooded, and you get him to sign the papers with DWF, which costs him nothing, to get big ole FREE PIPES delivered to his farm. He gets free pipes and that is a BIG DEAL to a farmer.

THEN on top of that, YOU PAY HIM for his lease, and he wins AGAIN, and you get to spend YOUR CONSERVATION MONEY in your own back yard.

Well the farmer has won TWICE, and since you aint gonna be tearing up his roads in winter because this is a conservation project, he will NOW be REAL WILLING to help you do some midifications on his place, as in plant the edges with the free seed that DWF has to offer, and suddenly you have yourself a bone-e-fied conservation project going down that everybody is happy with, including the DUCKS.

And all you spent, was your orginal DU contribution, plus the TIME that it took you to organize this effort. Thats all it costs, and just look at the diffence....

If you want to get the most bang for your conservation buck that can be had in Mississippi, THIS is how you do it.
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Postby tupe » Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:45 pm

Old Salty,

You think folks got a bad taste for DU now? Wait till this words gets around adn DU is seen hand in hand destroying wetlands with the COE.
Read the article.
http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cepa/releases/ducks.htm

M.B.
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Postby Jim » Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:58 pm

Whenever Govt. and Private industry get together, non-profit or not, things get done that are about money and not conservation.

The COE aint exactly famous for being conservation oriented in the first place.
they just got a budget, and wherever there is a Govt budget to be exploited under the gise of conservation, DU is there with their hand out taking it and some of what I've seen them deliver in exchange makes me bite my lip REAL hard.

But that being what it is, listen, the best way to correct this long term is to give the countries hunters their responsibilites back in their own back yards.

DU has turned it's back on the farmers in terms of dependance on their approval for funding.

You don't do something like this unless you are sure you will get money from other places to replace it.

They are putting together work regimes that can fullfill the expectations of WRP and other Govt contracts and they stood up and became a usable source for these agencies under the non-profit status to get these things done. They are Govt contracts and they carry Govt contract price tags, and the money isnt going away. It's a deep well I assure you.

Can we blame them? How could we?

But is that serving you as a hunter in it's best capacity? Soon DU wont need to have an expo but they certainly will still have it.

They plugged into the Govt Funded Jaugernaut and are probably already at the point where they dont need your money, my money, anybody else money from US because they are getting it in LARGE doese right from the Govt.

Quality of the work?

Regulated by the NRCS on WRP properties and it's Govt quality work if I ever saw it.

Better than nothing?

What's that got to do with it?

You know?

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