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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:17 am
by Greenhead22
Wheat can be grown at anytime..........doesn't meant that it will produce enough to be harvested however.
Even the fed said that it was a summer crop or whatever. Either way I'm still confused as to how they all got tickets.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:24 am
by Greenhead22
Egyptian Wheat:
Planting Dates: April - May
Maturity Days: 120 - 140
Under those guidelines it will be ready for opening weekend of dove season.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:33 pm
by Wingman
Turkeyman, egyptian wheat and winter wheat are two totally different grain crops. Egyptian wheat is much like sorghum, planted in the spring or early summer and harvested in the fall. Winter wheat is planted in the fall and harvested the following spring. Way far up north, they have another type of wheat that is planted in the spring and harvested in the fall...just too cold up there for even regular wheat to grow in the winter. I think all of GH22's jibber jabber is confusing the issue
The wheat everyone throws out on the ground in August is winter wheat. For erosion purposes I guess you could plant it that early, but for farming purposes you don't normally plant it until somewhere around October.
Well there's a whole lot of hearsay on this ticket situation and we'll never know the truth probably. Tell us how your friends planted this egyptian wheat that they were hunting over.
The fact is, that when planted and harvested according to normal agricultural practices, any crop is legal to hunt over.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:46 pm
by turkeyman
GH22 you were right about the dates but these boys still got a ticket. like i said i am here to learn as well as shot the crap.
You better print and frame b/c i dont admit to much to someone else being right
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:17 am
by crow
Egyptian Wheat is not "wheat!" It is a cereal grain, just not wheat! It is closer to milo.
By the way, I agree with others as to why your friends got ticketed. I think corn is a summer crop and gets hunted over a bit. Now, if they were "seeding" the field a couple of weeks before the season and leaving it on top of the ground, that is not "normal agricultural practice." It is usually shot after it is cut or bushhogged.
Be willing to bet a dollar to a donut that the ticket was for how the seed was put out, not what it was.
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:11 am
by hawkeye
If those boys got tickets, then tell me how it is legal for someone to hunt over egyptian wheat or sorghum/sudan hybrid that was planted by the Corps if May. They even clip some of it for dove hunting, but leave most of it standing for quail.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:09 am
by crow
Sounds as if these guys didn't "plant" the Egyptian wheat until just before the season which would not make it "normal agricultural practice" since it should normally be planted in early summer. Egyptian wheat is not planted in August or Sept. You can hunt over it if it is planted normally then cut, bailed, bushogged, or otherwise manipulated...if it is planted in the early summer and matured for the season...just like corn or sunflowers. Just sounds as if these guys were "top-dressing" the field for the season, which would be considered baiting. The issue would not be "what" is planted, but "when" it was planted.
Just my guess, though.
Thanks
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:08 am
by bucket454
If it was done in a normal ag process then I see no probs with. However, if it was considered 'baiting' it could've been removed 10 days before the season and still hunted.
Damn, i never thought of looking at it that way, thanks.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:45 am
by jdbuckshot
man this post is getting old !!!!!
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:36 pm
by mudsucker
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:03 pm
by dukmisr2005
egyptian wheat is in the sorghum family... and raised in the summer.. plant in spring.. i know i am in seed business... its had to tell from milo or lmillet.. its a big seeded variety... i know lots of folks that plant it around their blinds and public roads for screens and cover... works damn good too.. will get 8 to 10 ft tall on sorry ground and when it lodges will still be 4 to 6 ft tall..
how come you can plant sunflowers for ducks and doves but if you mow the field for doves it makes it illegal for ducks?? what gives??
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:52 am
by Double R 2
dukmisr2005 wrote:egyptian wheat is in the sorghum family... and raised in the summer.. plant in spring.. i know i am in seed business... its had to tell from milo or lmillet.. its a big seeded variety... i know lots of folks that plant it around their blinds and public roads for screens and cover... works damn good too.. will get 8 to 10 ft tall on sorry ground and when it lodges will still be 4 to 6 ft tall..
how come you can plant sunflowers for ducks and doves but if you mow the field for doves it makes it illegal for ducks?? what gives??
they're both migratory birds, afforded protection under the migratory bird treaty act, as amended and like all birds, respond positively to feed availability...and yet the law reads differently...go figure...