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Postby feather » Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:06 pm

Well, they say Noah was DEFINITELY white 'cause there ain't no way a black family woulda gone 40 days and nites on 'dat boat wifout eatin' dem two CHICKENS!!!!
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Postby Greenhead22 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:05 pm

Benny, I know who you are talking about. He taught me sociology one semester when I was at holmes cc in Grenada. The professor we had quit so they called over to DSU, and he was free that time of the day so he came over twice a week.
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Postby BeastMaster » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:17 pm

seems like i remember reading something about early man had to be black because of the genetic probabilities...... can't remember exactly....
Santa Claus is white though.. i seen him

talking about carbon dating and the whole science of evolution is an interesting topic..... i have a science background. i've had some long talks with several preachers about evolution and explaining how we have carbon dating from millions of years ago when the world is only suppose to be 7000 yrs old and so on.........

i'll never try to persuade a devout religious man into believing the whole "evolution" idea but i do not understand how someone refuses to believe the idea that evolution is a fact... things evolve... they evolve everyday...... you don't have to believe the primordial soup idea but how can you not agree that from one speicies of "finches" came many different "finches" the whole galopogos <--sp idea....... it is fact.... one finch flies to the island and evolves in the different environments over many many years to become different..... some find there niche in the tops of the canopy while others forage on the ground and some evolve to live in desert like climates... etc.... good reading... find it in any college biology book...

that was just one example of things evolving to their environment that seems to be simple and easy to understand.... Dr. Tiftishcin taught a good class on it if i'm not mistaken while i was at DSU
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Postby lower14 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:32 pm

Sociology - the study of things that are painfully obvious

Remember the Three Rules of Social Science

1. People do lots of really weird things
2. We don't know why
3. Test on Tuesday

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(pilfered from PJ O'Rourke)

PJ's other great take on education - "Anyone who slept with an elementary ed major in college knows precisely what's wrong with education in this country."
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:33 pm

Sociology was a fun class in college. At UM in the early 80s, we studied why Jew's don't eat pork, why Hindu's don't eat cows, and other such things. BTW, the sociology perspective was that there were practical reasons for such to survive and such was made into part of the religion of these groups for that reason since religion was basically the rule of law in that day. This is one of the reasons I am not into religious rituals of any church, except for communion and baptism.

Anyway, it was one of the most interesting classes I took in college. I actually paid attention and still remember a lot of that stuff.

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Postby BeastMaster » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:39 pm

anyone know why europeans don't use ice as much as we do in america?
like, you have to ask for ice in your drink etc......while i was in Turkey it was almost thought of as Taboo to use ice..... answers on that one Benny?
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Postby duckamateur » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:05 pm

I agree with you Benny! I really enjoyed Sociology last semester! So much that I took My professors' class Marriage and Family! Really interesting! Now when we get in an argument at home I leave her not knowing whether to $#!+ or go blind!!!! The arguments are few and far between now! To quote her "They're not even fun anymore." Education is a wonderful thing!!!!!
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Postby Wingman » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:24 pm

Adaptation is one thing, but I don't believe in the whole evolution bit. I give you one example that disproves evolution:

Genesis 1:27
So God made man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Not from an ape's image, His own image.


Noah and his family were on the boat for a year; it rained 40 days and nights.

But, of course, if you get your whole basis for creation from some library book, then you won't agree with me.
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Postby cajun squealer » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:02 pm

If you buy into all the carbon 14 dating "gazillion-bazillon and two years old" mumbo jumbo, you've been decieved. Research it and you'll find that this method of dating is highly inconsistent and inaccurate.

Oh, the foolishness of worldly wisdom... :roll:
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Postby go24 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:39 pm

Pride, arrogance, and man's wisdom :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Postby BeastMaster » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:51 am

wingman..... you believe in adaptation but not evolution? thats like saying that IS water but it aint H2O..... they are essential the same thing.. interchangable.....

things adapt and because they adapt they evolve.... just because a monkey learns to use a wet twig to get termites doesn't mean he grows a twig out his ass but if a bird finds that he can live in the tops of canopy and get more food he may grow a longer tail to give support and balance and that evolution can happen several different ways... one being mutation.. another being directive evolution --------> the birds that start moving to the tops of the tree. ok.. you agree that within a species there will be some non similar traits. some people are tall some people are smart some people have big feets etc..... the birds that have longer tails are able to feed better and thus have a higher survival rate than the ones that don't.... so guess what happens when 75% of the population that survives and breeds.... their offspring have a high probability of having longer tail feathers like their parents so on and so forth over many many years. Natural selection.. Oh yeah. and by the way... in nature it IS NOT survival of the fittest ifn ya didn't know !! that term was coined incorrectly.

Find yourself a sho nuff college biology instructor.. go spend a day talking with him about evolution/science and the bible...... go find you a sho nuff preacher..... go spend the day talking with him about the bible and evolution/science..... you will leave there with a different perspective on things because the preacher will always go back to "thats what the bible says" he will not have an answer for many things... it all goes back to faith. but your faith in God doesn't mean that you have to believe that evolution doesn't exist...i am indifferent on "evolution" as "where did we come from" i am saying that evolution happens all around us. very slow but all the time.. having faith doesn't mean you walk blindly through life never questioning things. having faith doesn't mean you have to take the words in the bible as is... it is how you interpret it.... that is why there are people that use snakes as part of their religion. b/c they interpreted part of the bible as saying so.. are they right.. are they wrong (yes i think so) but who is?

all i'm saying.. there is nothing wrong with asking questions but be careful..... you may find out something that will totally disrupt your life... it hurts to find out that what you believe to be SO isn't SO and that may be what you discover... don't ask a question that you can't handle the answer.

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And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it, they will be your food.
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Postby Wingman » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:43 am

Yeah, Beastieboy, I've been through formal learnin', made pretty good grades too.

But I didn't evolve from a knuckle-dragging gorilla like my Zoo professor said I did.
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Postby REBEL DUCK » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:06 am

Has anyone ever had Profesor Long at the University of Mississippi? He is a strange duck but for some reason I liked him. I took a soc of death and dying under him, that was crazy.
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Postby lower14 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:53 am

Hey, Wingman - out of curiosity, just why would it matter if evolution were true and you did come from an ape? Or a greenhead, for that matter?

And what are all those damned dinosaur bones and other fossils doing in the soil?
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Postby Dog's Eye » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:15 am

concrete rationalism vrs. functional rationalism
Look these terms up somewhere, some will understand the others will just get mad about it. Benny, these distinctions will help you avoid non thinkers. It's just evolution, those that create through questions, and those that follow blindly.

Yes the Bible says the Lord craeted us in his image, but does it say how? From dust; do you know the Lord's timetable? If the Lord created the Heavens and the earth and created us, then how can you logicaly seek to seperate us from the means of creation that are so evident around us.

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