help our duck hunting in the south?

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Postby Hambone » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:56 am

Just exactly what should DU be doing to help ducks in the South? Last time I checked, which was for the vast majority of late November, as well as December and January, the Delta was slam-full of wintering habitat. Is there anyone out there that really thinks we need additional wintering habitat here?

And if you really believe that duck hunting has been "ruined", maybe you need to get a different place to hunt.
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Postby dukbum » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:01 am

And if you really believe that duck hunting has been "ruined", maybe you need to get a different place to hunt.


i agree wif that :wink:
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Postby Spoonallard » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:03 am

Now don't give Billie Ray such a hard time. Money and Po Monkey are already pickin on the size of his gun.
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Postby Cotten » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:21 am

One certain is that DU gets a whole lot of bad PR. It is amazing, people who don't even hunt ducks blame DU for "poor duck hunting" in the south.

If the good old days had no mojo's or other electronic devices, had smaller bag limits and a shorter season, could it be we need to try that for a few years. It does seem that DU, DW, retailers or any others making $$$ off of duck hunting would lobby against this though. Or at least not lobby for it. Is this the problem? Short of a crisis is it possible to get the politicians to make changes like this?

I don't believe DU has intentionally done anything to hurt hunting here in the south. It could be we hunters want our cake and eat it too making it hard for DU or DW to lobby for the correct season and bag limit.

Of course now there is a duck hole every half mile or so the way a bird flies in the Mississippi/Yazoo Delta. The "problem" may not be solvable without a weeding out of duck hunters.
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Postby mason1203 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:35 am

I agree cotten, too many hunters and duck holes. Duck numbers seem lower than they are because there are 10 times as many duck holes as there were 20 yrs ago, the ducks are scattered out rather than concentrated.

BTW I had a great season
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Postby duckmaster » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:38 am

Intentional or not we have a problem and DU is not going to do anything to help. As long as the northern part of the country "SLAUGHTERS" the ducks then the south will just be left out of the picture completely. I personally hunted around 30 days this season and killed 4 ducks. I am not complaining about the number killed, just the number of ducks seen. The last day of season I hunted from daylight till noon and maybe saw 50 mallards. Over 5 years ago I would see ducks all day long. May have not been able to work alot of them but were at least seeing ducks. I don't know the answer to the problem but what I do know is that we definatley have one (A PROBLEM>)
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Postby Spoonallard » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:40 am

Cotten wrote:One certain is that DU gets a whole lot of bad PR. It is amazing, people who don't even hunt ducks blame DU for "poor duck hunting" in the south.

If the good old days had no mojo's or other electronic devices, had smaller bag limits and a shorter season, could it be we need to try that for a few years. It does seem that DU, DW, retailers or any others making $$$ off of duck hunting would lobby against this though. Or at least not lobby for it. Is this the problem? Short of a crisis is it possible to get the politicians to make changes like this?

I don't believe DU has intentionally done anything to hurt hunting here in the south. It could be we hunters want our cake and eat it too making it hard for DU or DW to lobby for the correct season and bag limit.

Of course now there is a duck hole every half mile or so the way a bird flies in the Mississippi/Yazoo Delta. The "problem" may not be solvable without a weeding out of duck hunters.




Why don't we as MSDuckers start our own lobby and lets decide what we want to do such as shorter seasons and smaller bag limits and the dreaded conflict of spiners or not and do something about it. I will start a new post and see if we can not nominate someone to head this up and have a vote as to what we would like to see happen with duck hunting in MS. If we want to change things, let's stop dropin tears in the beer and get it done.
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Postby bigwater » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:24 am

i like to duk hunt a-lot!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby mason1203 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:30 am

I'm in, where do we start
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Postby GulfCoast » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:32 am

I wish that God would transplant these bozos into an alternate dimension where DU never existed. I really do.

Let them try and hunt ducks on a parking lot, without any protection of the "duck factory."


What has DU done for duck hunting in Mississippi? How about give those little critters you shoot at here some place to lay their eggs halfway in peace?


I have my issues with DU, too. But some of these posts make me wonder who is gonna take care of this sport when all us are dead, since the duck hunter intellegence quotient is shrinking......... :roll:
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Postby mottlet » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:37 am

There aren't too many duck hunters around these days Gulfcoast. Buncha what have you done for me lately duck killers, but not hunters.

By the way, I think that name-changing pot-stirrers should have their fingernails pried off while being hung from their testicles.

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Postby mason1203 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:39 am

Let them try and hunt ducks on a parking lot, without any protection of the "duck factory."


What has DU done for duck hunting in Mississippi? How about give those little critters you shoot at here some place to lay their eggs halfway in peace?


Right on GC
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Postby Spoonallard » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:45 am

GulfCoast wrote:I wish that God would transplant these bozos into an alternate dimension where DU never existed. I really do.

Let them try and hunt ducks on a parking lot, without any protection of the "duck factory."


What has DU done for duck hunting in Mississippi? How about give those little critters you shoot at here some place to lay their eggs halfway in peace?


I have my issues with DU, too. But some of these posts make me wonder who is gonna take care of this sport when all us are dead, since the duck hunter intellegence quotient is shrinking......... :roll:


I must agree! Let's just make sure we teach our children what it is all about.
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Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:57 am

Gulfcoast quote: "...duck hunter intelligence quotient is shrinking."

I would say that is right. MENSA it ain't.

The science will have to dictate the seasons, not numbers of duck hunters. The USF&WS will never lower the bag limits or reduce the season length because some hunters think there are too many duck hunters in the sport. Even if such were a viable factor in these determinations, I am not convinced that a couple of years of 30/3 would reduce the number of hunters that much. Probably some, but doubtful it would be enough to make any discernable difference to hunting in MS.

DU AND DW spend most of their dollars in the US/PPR and Canada ---the breeding grounds, where the big ducks make little ducks, which provides us ducks to hunt(I'm trying to put this into very simple terms without using a lot of big words). Putting significant sums of money into MS wintering areas should be low on the priority list, until we reach the point that all the breeding grounds are sufficiently protected and managed to maximum breeding efficiency. Landowners/farmers are providing such wintering habitat on their own, either for their own hunting enjoyment or to lease out or sell for a profit. There is undoubtedly too many inferior fields being flooded and leased out to unsuspecting over-eager hunters for profit ---the effect of which is most likely to scatter the ducks that we do have. Not really much I, you, DU, or DW can do about that. As long as there are folks willing to pay the money, there will always be folks willing to take it from them.

As far as there being too many hunters and too many holes, who on this board is going to be the first to voluntarily stop hunting and to voluntarily give up some of your duck holes???? The line forms in the rear. :roll:
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Postby qckmstr » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:09 pm

its funny how some people get so upset when you say something about du. they even send back responses with their fancy little logo's by their name(oh by the way..those are real cute) knowing most of them just started shooting ducks less than 10 years ago. heck... daddy probably still stands beside them and loads the gun.. anywho... guess i'll just go ahead and join up so i can be cool. think i'll see if i can get me one of those committee shirts with my name on it. well gotta go get my tag and see if i can find some pretty hunt'n clothes for next year. p.s some of yall store bought duck hunters should check out delta waterfowl. that's an example of a duck organization that will benefit our state..

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