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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:18 am
by dukbum
ESTATES SUX THE BIG ONE!

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:23 am
by Wildfowler
GulfCoast wrote:Hevi-Steel: The "don't get it near water if you want it to go "bang" shell gets my vote.
Me too. I've had problems with those shells and a couple of bloopers. This is from about 3 boxes. If you ever get them wet, they're toast.
I like Kent's.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:32 am
by cajun squealer
7-8 years ago before many people started shooting them, Estate shells were awesome. Since then they've been bought out (I think by Federal), and that's when they really went downhill. Estate couldn't keep up with the demand. At one time, a dealer told me they were something like 30,000 cases back-ordered. Can't blame them for selling out; that's just business.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:32 am
by Redhead
Winchester Experts

Worst shell ever made
I like Kent 3.5's

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:32 am
by hillhunter
estates without a doubt
the 3 1/2" are really 3 1/4"
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:43 am
by weimhunter
I have had some bad luck with Winchester expert. What is wrong with estate shells? I have shot them several times with no problems.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:32 am
by lower14
REMINGTON, REMINGTON and REMINGTON!!!!
Worst. Shell. Ever.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:53 am
by iron grip
I don't know about estates cartriges I haven't shot any. But I bought a box of Kent Tungston Matrix to try this year and I think two out of ten actually shot! WTF? Anyone else had this happen with these? what did you do? I am thinking of taking them back to MM and asking for an exchange. I think I saved most of the no bangs with dents on their caps and all.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:40 am
by bigwater
heck yea you'd better take them thangs back. especially when u consider that they cost roughly $1.00 per shell
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:39 pm
by dawg-n-duck
Federal and Winchester X perts
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:01 pm
by the doctor
remington sportsmen steel and winchester experts are the worst
most everything remington makes outside of there surshot dove loads are crap
the doc
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:19 pm
by blgros1
I would have to say federal makes by far the worst shot and that also explains estate if they were bought out by federal.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:40 pm
by jdphish
The low brass blue Federals worst
Ex-spuurts by Winchester worser