I sure would like to see an opinion from the U.S. Forestry Service about the effects of prolonged flooding on bottomland hardwood forests. It'd be a shame if the actions of all these "environmental" groups helped to destroy the ONLY bottomland hardwood forest in the National Forest System.novacaine wrote:Had a discussion with a biologist friend discuss what he has seen down there recently.
His most telling comment was that the natal oak that makes up the majority of the wrp restoration in south delta isn't looking good....
All the wrp bottom land hardwood restoration put in since 1991 would be one heck of a loss ............in both wildlife restoration potential and government $$$$.
We spent a few hundred $/acre on WRP and CRP tree planting......I can't remember how many acres we are up to now (probably over 50,000-100,000 acres in Sharkey and Issaquena ).
Lots of money.
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I've heard a lot of comments from disgruntled folks about MWF's stance on the pump issue.....personally, I hope they get the message, and change their stance on the issue.....but, I doubt it.....they may not suffer financially because they've got those big-money tree-hugging supporters, but their membership is going to tank.
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NO....................
Kids are like coots,they come in droves for me..........
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The lack of economy/people hasn’t stopped federal projects in other states. There are multimillion projects constructed every year that don’t have the necessary b/c ratios. This is about politics and shifting $ to fortunate states. Always has been.stang67 wrote:Lack of economy and people in that area is a huge reason why there are no pumps. I know the biology issue is front and center. Enough $$ can overcome those issues.missed mallards wrote:For a ton of people, it doesn’t matter.... There’s not a lot of economy down there.... Population in that vast area and voters have a lot to do with it.
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I think Issaquena had close to 60,000 acres alone.novacaine wrote:Had a discussion with a biologist friend discuss what he has seen down there recently.
His most telling comment was that the natal oak that makes up the majority of the wrp restoration in south delta isn't looking good....
All the wrp bottom land hardwood restoration put in since 1991 would be one heck of a loss ............in both wildlife restoration potential and government $$$$.
We spent a few hundred $/acre on WRP and CRP tree planting......I can't remember how many acres we are up to now (probably over 50,000-100,000 acres in Sharkey and Issaquena ).
Lots of money.
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for those not on the Phasebook, here are some links of interest on this.
https://www.wlbt.com/2019/07/30/mississ ... pPkVrDneNU
https://www.mdwfp.com/media/news/admini ... eU43zPlIxA
A running total of who all has backed out of the Ganza.
https://www.vicksburgnews.com/vendors-f ... b36PhQ5Qzw
https://www.wlbt.com/2019/07/30/mississ ... pPkVrDneNU
https://www.mdwfp.com/media/news/admini ... eU43zPlIxA
A running total of who all has backed out of the Ganza.
https://www.vicksburgnews.com/vendors-f ... b36PhQ5Qzw
Looking for 2 duck calls from Dominic Serio of Greenwood (ones for Novacaine)
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"Most Chesapeakes, unless in agreement that it is his idea, will continually question the validity of what he is being asked to do" - Butch Goodwin
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Hey everyone, we have reached out to #finishthepumps to let them know there is space available in the MS Wildlife Extravaganza for them. We are awaiting their response.
9:57 AM - 30 Jul 2019
they're now trying to walk-it-back, since booths have opened up and all......toothpaste is already out of the tube!
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Hey everyone, we have reached out to #finishthepumps to let them know there is space available in the MS Wildlife Extravaganza for them. We are awaiting their response.
9:57 AM - 30 Jul 2019
they're now trying to walk-it-back, since booths have opened up and all......toothpaste is already out of the tube!
Experience is a freakin' awesome teacher...
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All the neverTrumpers at the Corps better hope this gets done before 2020. Ironic.
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Kudos to randy Wallace for his quotes in clarion ledger article on the extravaganza. Like he said people talk with their money and then folks will listen. From the list of pullouts gonna be a slim crowd. Somebody must have really put the pressure on mdwfp to pull out.
Whoever is in charge of marketing for that event just got canned I would bet. This won’t be forgotten. Not very smart to shun the best hunting place in the state
Whoever is in charge of marketing for that event just got canned I would bet. This won’t be forgotten. Not very smart to shun the best hunting place in the state
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I am on record here as being against the pumps long ago the last time this was discussed here.
Long ago for selfish reasons I thought if the pumps were finished I could kiss goodbye any more freelance hunting at panther swamp or DNF during high water events like back in 05 at the end of the season.
The last two weeks of that season were some of the most fun I’ve had. Suddenly having 1000’s of acres of woods to hunt in.
By my way of thinking, any flooding would only be short term. What’s the worst that would happen? I thought to myself that farmers might not be able to plant corn that year and would have to just plant late beans instead if there was a late spring flood.
I wish to publicly apologize for being dead booty wrong about this issue.
I had no clue that 100’s of thousands of acres could remain flooded for six months straight.
Even if it was only recreational land affected. Not being able to manage for waterfowl crops for an entire season is devastating.
I am sorry. I was wrong in my way of thinking about the issue previously.
Long ago for selfish reasons I thought if the pumps were finished I could kiss goodbye any more freelance hunting at panther swamp or DNF during high water events like back in 05 at the end of the season.
The last two weeks of that season were some of the most fun I’ve had. Suddenly having 1000’s of acres of woods to hunt in.
By my way of thinking, any flooding would only be short term. What’s the worst that would happen? I thought to myself that farmers might not be able to plant corn that year and would have to just plant late beans instead if there was a late spring flood.
I wish to publicly apologize for being dead booty wrong about this issue.
I had no clue that 100’s of thousands of acres could remain flooded for six months straight.
Even if it was only recreational land affected. Not being able to manage for waterfowl crops for an entire season is devastating.
I am sorry. I was wrong in my way of thinking about the issue previously.
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I don't think it's the marketing person's fault when the executive director is the one denying booths to people that think differently.lilwhitelie wrote:Whoever is in charge of marketing for that event just got canned I would bet. This won’t be forgotten. Not very smart to shun the best hunting place in the state
https://www.vicksburgnews.com/mississip ... Ol2BlMysqQ
"She received a response from MWF Executive Director Lindsey Lemmons that her request was received and under review."
Asked why, Lemmons told Darden that it was “… the discretion of the promoter of the event to make those selections.”
Darden challenged Lemmons. “When we talked Friday it seemed all I really had to do was pay my money and send in my application, and y’all only had a few booths left, and it wasn’t a big deal,” Darden recounted to the Vicksburg Daily News. Tuesday morning, “all of a sudden you had a big wait list,” she said.
Looking for 2 duck calls from Dominic Serio of Greenwood (ones for Novacaine)
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Just as a personal note. When the primary state agency responsible for ensuring that our vast outdoor resources are there for us to use, decides not to participate in your biggest outdoor activities event; you probably have a serious problem. And I, for one, do not really want to be a part of it.
Nobody owes you anything.
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Excuse me if I don’t see MDWFP as a white knight here. What’s been their history, pre-new-WMA, on the pumps issue?
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