Here are some comments from the OM Rivals private board----it's insane how angry people get over crap like this---I liked the comment about Ray Rice knocking his girlfriend out then having video of him drag her out of an elevator and there was 1 response to that-----but someone throws a noose around an inanimate object and it's time for war.....
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And of course they aren't from MS. Congrats GA.-Chuck's Brain2/21 9:47 AM | IP: Logged
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I know it's a long shot but I hope they spend time in jail.2/21 9:50 AM | IP: Logged
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werent the kids after the 2012 election "riot" on campus from GA as well?2/21 9:51 AM | IP: Logged
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Time to reevaluate out of state requirements? I'd bet some coin these fools didn't qualify for entrance into their state's flagship university.2/21 9:55 AM | IP: Logged
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I have two degrees from Ole Miss and I'm from Virginia originally. The vitriol for out-of-state students on this site is plain dumb...our university and Oxford wouldn't be 1/2 the place it is without our out-of-stater students.
That being said: no matter where the people are from that put a noose around the statue...they ought to be held accountable, expelled from the University (after all, Ole Miss is a place for HIGHER learning) and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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100% agree Brig.2/21 10:09 AM | IP: Logged
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The boys made some poor choices last Sunday morning. 2/21 10:14 AM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by Brig.Barksdale:
I have two degrees from Ole Miss and I'm from Virginia originally. The vitriol for out-of-state students on this site is plain dumb...our university and Oxford wouldn't be 1/2 the place it is without our out-of-stater students.
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Part of what makes Ole Miss special are the out of state students. A lot of good kids from other states have been Ole Miss Rebels.2/21 10:16 AM | IP: Logged
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A little time in prison rooming with some brothers will improve their brotherly love for the other races.2/21 10:18 AM | IP: Logged
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Part of what makes Ole Miss special are the out of state students. A lot of good kids from other states have been Ole Miss Rebels.
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Exactly. Can't let a couple of IDIOTS set the standard for all out of state students.2/21 10:20 AM | IP: Logged
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What a ridiculous thing to say...talk about ignorance. Who gives a $#!+ where these idiots came from. What they did was dispicable and they should be punished severely. I didn't get into UGA and decided to go to Ole Miss. Does that put me in the same boat as these guys? GFY. Last time I checked my bank account Ole Miss also got around $100,000 of my out of state tuition money as well.
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Meh... Every state has immature kids including MS. In saying that, I believe UGA does have some pretty tough requirements for in-state kids.
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The term "outside agitators" now has a different context.2/21 10:32 AM | IP: Logged
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Sparky once told our fraternity that according to a study they conducted they found the demographic most likely to get into trouble while enrolled was a white fraternity male from Georgia. That being said, I had plenty of atlanta buddies that were just as harmless as we were when we were there. Not sure what you can take from that statistic honestly2/21 10:34 AM | IP: Logged
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As I type this, the headline "Noose at Ole Miss" just flashed across CNN.
If these guys did it, they need to receive the symbolic kick in the nads from Ole Miss, and they need to be permanently expelled. In addition, the alumni association (or whoever can do it), ought to file a civil suit against these knuckleheads for damages. It looks like Ole Miss has an opportunity to jump out and show some leadership on this issue...hopefully we take that opportunity. 2/21 10:34 AM | IP: Logged
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I don't think there is true vitriol for out of state students. Most welcome them and see them as an integral part of Ole Miss.
Some, however, are tired of Ole Miss and Mississippi being the fall guy for their actions. Ole Miss and Mississippi will bear the brunt of the negative publicity generated by this unfortunate incident, no one else. It grows old.2/21 10:34 AM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by USAFReb:
As I type this, the headline "Noose at Ole Miss" just flashed across CNN.
If these guys did it, they need to receive the symbolic kick in the nads from Ole Miss, and they need to be permanently expelled. In addition, the alumni association (or whoever can do it), ought to file a civil suit against these knuckleheads for damages. It looks like Ole Miss has an opportunity to jump out and show some leadership on this issue...hopefully we take that opportunity.
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I'm pretty sure the main instigator was from SC2/21 10:43 AM | IP: Logged
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Where was Crunchy Mike from? Remember that?2/21 10:43 AM | IP: Logged
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There is no doubt they will be expelled if they have the evidence they appear to have. What they should be concerned aboutm, and it appears they are because they've lawyered-up, is heavy fines and possible jail time.2/21 10:50 AM | IP: Logged
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$100 says beer/alcohol was involved.2/21 10:56 AM | IP: Logged
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Ranch, or washing socks and jocks for the football team for a semester.
Beetles, I totally agree with your point of the contribution of out of state people at Ole Miss. But I have to add something for you to think about. We have so many students from Ga and Texas whom do not have the credentials to attend their flagship state school or the better private schools . Their parents enjoy our symbols of the south that we defend. We get poor behavior choices from some of these kids, because they think it's okay here.
I believe the educated class in Mississippi is different . The civil rights movement in our state changed when this class decided it wasn't okay to stand by in silence at the attocities happening.
I hope these kids aren't in the fraternity as that kid from Ga. they posted the interview in the grove several years ago. He was from Ga. and dropping N-bombs left and right.
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I would like to ask a question and would appreciate an answer without being attacked from someone that knows:
What exactly can these freshmen be charged with over the noose and the flag and are the laws city, state and federal?
These kids made a bad choice--likely a whisky choice. OM took a blackeye from those that don't know how much OM has done to eliminate bigotry and make OM a university for all. Unfortunately, there are always those that do these acts and those that love to belittle the South and especially Mississippi. However, in my opinion things have gotten better because the papers, the broadcast media and the internet has basically blown it off it seems. That is how it should be-all should not take the fall for the acts of three freshmen acting like fools.2/21 11:02 AM | IP: Logged
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Kick their ass out of school........OLE MISS............2/21 11:12 AM | IP: Logged
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Great question Foe...
It's speech so...it's not a "hate crime" in the traditional sense of the term, they didn't spark a riot or anything...Malicious damage of property comes to mind. Can't be trespassing if they are students...
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Hate Crime, for one, but not sure if it would stick ... defacing public property, but they didn't actually "damage" the statue. I imagine they could be sued, too, and they will absolutely be expelled.2/21 11:19 AM | IP: Logged
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Foe -- to read more of the story below -->
http://voices.yahoo.com/hate-crime-prac ... 76138.html
In late 2006, in Jena, Louisiana, Justin Barker and friends hung some nooses from a tree outside their school. Why? Because black students wanted to sit under the tree. Blacks are not allowed to do so. The school said they didn't care; however, some students did care.
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I want them off campus and out of their dorms by close of business. 2/21 11:26 AM | IP: Logged
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Unless they can't be identified. Just win,baby!!2/21 11:27 AM | IP: Logged
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Hey Mav....
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I hope other freshman and students are ticked off as we are about this. And I hope they identify these students and shame them. There is nothing funny about this or nothing acceptable about this. My son is a senior at Ole Miss and he is pissed. He told me two nights ago that he bet is was freshman, fraternity guys from Georgia.
I saw today in another article where a black girl at the retreat apartment complex was yelled racial slurs from a truck passing by.
Read another article from last years ASB president, who had many good things to say, but she put up with several incidences of insults and slurs.
Really getting tired of it. Tired of walking through the grove on a game day and seeing three or four tents decked out with confederate flags. 2/21 11:43 AM | IP: Logged
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kick them out of school and move on, this is not a hate crime.
nobody was injured, just three dumb kids......let's focus and worry about true crimes with real victims. I know the media will try to politicize this, but we shouldn't join in.2/21 11:46 AM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by Friendly Foe:
I would like to ask a question and would appreciate an answer without being attacked from someone that knows:
What exactly can these freshmen be charged with over the noose and the flag and are the laws city, state and federal?
These kids made a bad choice--likely a whisky choice. OM took a blackeye from those that don't know how much OM has done to eliminate bigotry and make OM a university for all. Unfortunately, there are always those that do these acts and those that love to belittle the South and especially Mississippi. However, in my opinion things have gotten better because the papers, the broadcast media and the internet has basically blown it off it seems. That is how it should be-all should not take the fall for the acts of three freshmen acting like fools.
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FF I asked that ? on fire away Friday and didn't really get an answer (understandable since Chase/Neal are lawyers). While obviously wrong I'm not sure what was actually illegal about it. I don't think you would have much of a case for vandalism when no actual damage was done. I guess you can always claim disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, or even littering but as far as it being a "hate crime" I'm wondering just what was criminal. 2/21 12:09 PM | IP: Logged
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There is no doubt they will be expelled if they have the evidence they appear to have. What they should be concerned aboutm, and it appears they are because they've lawyered-up, is heavy fines and possible jail time.
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I'm not arguing because I have no idea, but what would the charges be?2/21 12:10 PM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by Brig.Barksdale:
Foe -- to read more of the story below -->
http://voices.yahoo.com/hate-crime-prac ... 76138.html
In late 2006, in Jena, Louisiana, Justin Barker and friends hung some nooses from a tree outside their school. Why? Because black students wanted to sit under the tree. Blacks are not allowed to do so. The school said they didn't care; however, some students did care.
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I remember that. It caused some serious demonstrations and some violence too if I recall. Funny, but I drove through Jena yesterday cutting across country from Lufkin, Texas to see my cousin who is presently at death's door in Mississippi. He has decided on no more treatments and has chosen to die. Now to watch your video2/21 12:19 PM | IP: Logged
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I don't disagree with you, but that is some of what is being discussed right now in terms of the ability to press charges.2/21 12:26 PM | IP: Logged
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Total SCUM BAGS AND LOW-LIFES
I hope they realize how serious this and everyone else within the Ole Miss family. I hope they realize how this makes our African-American brothers and sisters feel....
Now their hiding like scum bag cowards behind their lawyer. Make an example of them and punish them strongly but justly.On any given Saturday...anybody can beat anybody.2/21 12:27 PM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by Friendly Foe:
I would like to ask a question and would appreciate an answer without being attacked from someone that knows:
What exactly can these freshmen be charged with over the noose and the flag and are the laws city, state and federal?
These kids made a bad choice--likely a whisky choice. OM took a blackeye from those that don't know how much OM has done to eliminate bigotry and make OM a university for all. Unfortunately, there are always those that do these acts and those that love to belittle the South and especially Mississippi. However, in my opinion things have gotten better because the papers, the broadcast media and the internet has basically blown it off it seems. That is how it should be-all should not take the fall for the acts of three freshmen acting like fools.
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FF: what a breath of fresh air! Imagine asking what laws they may have broken, before advocating punishment! What these characters did is despicable, but who know if they broke any laws? I am sure the University has more than sufficient grounds to expel them. Our illustrious board members have already convicted them and sentenced them to some laws. This will best be handles by the authorities without any help from the erstwhile coaches and attorney" experts" ( apologies to the educated and degreed lawyers on here). Maybe we should rename The Grove to "jump to conclusions" on any subject?2/21 12:27 PM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by rebintideland:
Total SCUM BAGS AND LOW-LIFES
I hope they realize how serious this and everyone else within the Ole Miss family. I hope they realize how this makes our African-American brothers and sisters feel....
Now their hiding like scum bag cowards behind their lawyer. Make an example of them and punish them strongly but justly.
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I can see expelling them from school (no problem), heck I could even see the University pressing some sort of civil case for defamation (I don't even know if they can do that), but I'm still not sure what can be done as far as criminal charges. 2/21 12:31 PM | IP: Logged
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I don't have any vitriol for ooss's. I have good friends that were from out of state. Hell, I moved out of state once done w/ college for job purposes. However, OM should reevaluate their admission requirements for out of state students. Not saying a MS resident wouldn't or hasn't done something dumb or racist while at OM but doesn't seem to happen as often.
I'm glad you have 2 degrees from OM. If actions like this keep occurring you'll have to take em off your wall for dinner parties. 2/21 12:39 PM | IP: Logged
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I know, pistol whip them then use an ice auger on their stomachs, just like the old days. CNN will love us.2/21 12:40 PM | IP: Logged
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Wish we could hang them from their own noose.
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what about reevaluating oos requirements is ignorant?
you put yourself in that boat, not me. i didn't keep you out of uga so keep the teen angst to yourself.
i give a $#!+ where these idiots are from. i'm thankful as hell they aren't from the ms delta or oxford and are from georgia. send their asses packing. maybe you can give your brethren a job when they get home.
i'm fine w/ allowing oos students and welcome them. i just think we should up the requirements to attend OM. we can keep it a couple act points below uga though so your kids can attend since you seem like a fine rebel. 2/21 12:44 PM | IP: Logged
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something like this would be fun... See how strong their beliefs really are...
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Uh I'm not a law expert but I ain't stupid either.
Vandalism, maybe?
I mean vandalism is defacing property. That doesn't mean irreparable damage. They defaced University Property! Same as if they would have spray painted the N-word on the side of a building.
Well as I type I looked up the legal definition of vandalism. For it to be a crime it had to cause $500 worth of damage. I could make the clean up cost $500 quick.2/21 12:49 PM | IP: Logged
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Originally posted by Friendly Foe:
I would like to ask a question and would appreciate an answer without being attacked from someone that knows:
What exactly can these freshmen be charged with over the noose and the flag and are the laws city, state and federal?
These kids made a bad choice--likely a whisky choice. OM took a blackeye from those that don't know how much OM has done to eliminate bigotry and make OM a university for all. Unfortunately, there are always those that do these acts and those that love to belittle the South and especially Mississippi. However, in my opinion things have gotten better because the papers, the broadcast media and the internet has basically blown it off it seems. That is how it should be-all should not take the fall for the acts of three freshmen acting like fools.
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Driesbach, get off your high horse before your nose starts bleeding. Listening to a Mississippian bash out-of-state southerners over racial insensitivity is freakin laughable. Spare us the "Mississippians are more progressive than Georgians/Carolinians/Alabamians/Tennesseans/Virginias/Louisianans, etc." theory...
We are all Ole Miss Rebels here and we're all pissed off about what happened. No need to be even MORE divisive. This is a time for all current and former alumni to voice their displeasure as ONE.Follow me @BrigBarksdale222/21 12:59 PM | IP: Logged
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I know this is tragic, the worst thing ever, a black eye, blah, blah----and the reason it gets talked about so much on here is because it happened at our school....but I find it kind of disturbing that someone started a thread a couple days ago that included a video of Ray Rice dragging his girlfriend, that he knocked out, from an elevator and treating her like a dead animal ----- and it got all of 1 response.......just odd to me.
Carry on.
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