Re: Bows: which one
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:42 pm
PSE Evo 7 for me
was working in a bow shop when Elite first hit the market...ergonomics out of this world, as you said...but you couldn't get one tuned to save the world, and if you did, it wouldn't last very many shots...and they were middle road performance wise...so, they were very quiet, smooth, felt good but they didn't blow anybody away and they wouldn't stay tuned...so if you got your bow out week before Oct 1 and shot enough to hit a pie plate at 30 yards and you shot expandable broadheads and you know the story...it worked great, if you were any at all meticulous about your archery setup then you wouldn't make a month with any bow they sent us...and you'd NEVER shoot a fixed blade broadhead unless you just didn't care or pay attention to how they shot...biggest issue, price point...nobody that would look past those things would pay the same as the top line bows from Hoyt, PSE, Matthews on the shelf right next to them...anyways, you get the picture...lilwhitelie wrote:If you have not shot an Elite bow I urge you to. Speed and forgiveness and great back wall.
on another note, the customer I outlined above in the Elite topic...that was 75% of the customers that came through a very high traffic outfitters shop in September...and everyone of them were slinging arrows all over the woods at deer in October and the stories were stomach turning and the truth was not to be heard in any way shape form or fashion...and I'm not casting any stones, but almost everyone of them had the same ole speech about "new" bows and technology and their old equipment...and the beat goes on...I'm not in the market and not selling a bow to anyone, but the idea that anybody's old bow shoots as good as the new stuff or that it's all marketing is short sighted...the differences are astronomical and that bow that's been sitting up between every hunting season for years, it's not a rifle, it's parts and piece grow old and are under never ending age producing strain...they do not last forever...they aren't a gun...cleaning and care do not change the nature of the beast...they do not perform as good, nor are they as easy to shoot as anything in your local bow shop....fact...not stereotyping those that treasure and shoot their old equipment, cause they kill deer and they can be extended and there is a definite draw to that...but I'm of the opinion if you are gonna go shoot at an animal, there is a level of accountability and the majority that I encountered that tooted the my old bow horn where irresponsible and shouldn't have been allowed to shoot at deer with their equipment and truth be known, most of them were moving on to the fascinating CROSSBOW cause they really just wanted 12 months of gun season...camlock wrote:was working in a bow shop when Elite first hit the market...ergonomics out of this world, as you said...but you couldn't get one tuned to save the world, and if you did, it wouldn't last very many shots...and they were middle road performance wise...so, they were very quiet, smooth, felt good but they didn't blow anybody away and they wouldn't stay tuned...so if you got your bow out week before Oct 1 and shot enough to hit a pie plate at 30 yards and you shot expandable broadheads and you know the story...it worked great, if you were any at all meticulous about your archery setup then you wouldn't make a month with any bow they sent us...and you'd NEVER shoot a fixed blade broadhead unless you just didn't care or pay attention to how they shot...biggest issue, price point...nobody that would look past those things would pay the same as the top line bows from Hoyt, PSE, Matthews on the shelf right next to them...anyways, you get the picture...lilwhitelie wrote:If you have not shot an Elite bow I urge you to. Speed and forgiveness and great back wall.
All that said, a lot of things Elite does/has done with their bows, I like...but that year was year one and my only experience with them. I haven't ever given em another shot and I've not been working in bow shop for 2 years now....have they improved these things?
Referring to shooting about 25 of them and shooting some of them a lot...never said they they didn't feel good, said they were hard to tune and to keep tuned....and I also said its been 3 years and asked if they improved this..never doubted they felt good in your hands, I assure you I've shot them plenty99beers wrote:Not sure what year you are referring to when talking about Elite Bows?? I can tell you that it's one of the best shooting bows on the market right now. Fit, finish, shot, backwall.......it's top notch.
I got no beef with expandable, I shoot them sometimes too...just don't like the people I've encountered that shoot them only because they don't wanna spend any extra time or dollars making sure their bow is right before shooting at deer...lilwhitelie wrote:I have a gt 500 and have not experienced tuning issues. I do shoot expandables for what it's worth. Shot and felt better than the Matthews outback I had. Maybe I'm lucky and got a good one. Guy that set it up did have issues with getting a drop away rest that was correct for it. I am not a competative shooter but not a pie plate settler either. Im fine sticking with a rage if I have to.
They have, easy to tune, and draw awesome!! The tuning issues sometimes have to do with who is doing he tuning.camlock wrote:I got no beef with expandable, I shoot them sometimes too...just don't like the people I've encountered that shoot them only because they don't wanna spend any extra time or dollars making sure their bow is right before shooting at deer...lilwhitelie wrote:I have a gt 500 and have not experienced tuning issues. I do shoot expandables for what it's worth. Shot and felt better than the Matthews outback I had. Maybe I'm lucky and got a good one. Guy that set it up did have issues with getting a drop away rest that was correct for it. I am not a competative shooter but not a pie plate settler either. Im fine sticking with a rage if I have to.
I liked Elite bows...they felt good and looked good and in theory pretty good looking new line, just tuning issues with those first we got...sure they addressed it...I've considered getting one and see what it does. Hard to get away from PSE or Hoyt for me
Sometimes, but after 4-5 guys getting paid to tune em for a living all get the same result...sorta sticks. You sell Elite stock?99beers wrote:They have, easy to tune, and draw awesome!! The tuning issues sometimes have to do with who is doing he tuning.camlock wrote:I got no beef with expandable, I shoot them sometimes too...just don't like the people I've encountered that shoot them only because they don't wanna spend any extra time or dollars making sure their bow is right before shooting at deer...lilwhitelie wrote:I have a gt 500 and have not experienced tuning issues. I do shoot expandables for what it's worth. Shot and felt better than the Matthews outback I had. Maybe I'm lucky and got a good one. Guy that set it up did have issues with getting a drop away rest that was correct for it. I am not a competative shooter but not a pie plate settler either. Im fine sticking with a rage if I have to.
I liked Elite bows...they felt good and looked good and in theory pretty good looking new line, just tuning issues with those first we got...sure they addressed it...I've considered getting one and see what it does. Hard to get away from PSE or Hoyt for me
which one do you shoot?99beers wrote:A lot of folks say they can tune a bow, very few can. (ie: tuning does not equal setting one up). And, I didn't say you couldn't tune one, just sayin' in general.