crappy wardens

[JAMES FARMS]

Just wanted to be the one to knock us over 10

[slamminheads]

The original intent of the federal game laws was basically to stop market hunting. We are now so far afield from that basic end that the entire reason for the implementation of the laws has been forgotten. Our federal game laws, in many respects, have simply become a means of subjective harassment by the enforcers of those laws. As described by the shared experiences of many here in this thread, when stopped and checked by federal wardens the results usually include something along the lines of "..we could have cited you for x. y, and z, but chose not to do so" (because we didn't want to appear to be a bunch of cheesedicks). Much like our tax laws have become, the game laws have become so extensive and burdensome that even those who try to comply and be good sportsmen can often be found noncompliant. The practical use of these laws for most of the enforcement officers is to use them to really put the hammer down on those caught in more serious violations ---- just icing on the cake so to speak. But, in the hands of the inexperienced or those wanting to find violations for the sake of writing tickets, the laws usually can serve that purpose even against the most careful sportsmen.

When three guys cannot emerge from a duck hunt with 5 total birds (well within our daily bag limits) without being ticketed for a "tagging violation", we have reached the threshold of pointless absurdity. What real purpose did that serve? How did that ticket protect the resource or the sport? It didn't. Were the actions of the hunters "unethical"? No.

Laws can be changed folks. They weren't set by fiat from a King. Federal laws were enacted by Congress and can be modified by Congress. State laws were enacted by our legislature and signed by the Gov. Perhaps its time to make some concrete suggestions to the people who can make a difference --- our members of Congress --- US Representatives and Senators, or state legislators. . Surely we can prevent market gunning and enforce our daily bag limits without the necessity of the current federal and state laws as written (most likely by folks who don't even hunt and wouldn't know a duck from an ardvark), and without harassing our good sportsmen. When most finally get to the point of just saying F^*& it and just stop hunting, then I suppose we won't even need wardens. At that point, the anti-hunters will have won the battle through over-regulation, as opposed to popular support(this is exactly the tactics of the left in other areas --- what makes anyone think that this is not the desired end game here?).


Yet one more example and one more step toward the "pussification" of America.

Amen

Amen for me too.
Duck Hunting is a big source of income for the mississippi delta. If hunters keeping getting harrassed by wardens they will eventually just stop hunting. which in return hurts the local resturants, hotels, retail stores, etc...

If someone is wrong then they are wrong. give them a ticket. but if not. then leave them alone.

[ducman77]

That would be great!!! We could get the public land back to the way it was in the late 80's

[tunica]

That would be great!!! We could get the public land back to the way it was in the late 80's

I'd like it better early 80's. but yea I sure hope something catches on as the thing to do

[Wingman]

That would be great!!! We could get the public land back to the way it was in the late 80's

So are you for or against hunter harassment by crappy wardens?

[BrettG]

Find out the wardens day off and schedule court date and get it changed until it falls on his day off then when he shows up settle your fine with the judge ahead of time. And if he doesn't show you get the charge dismissed.

We are always reminded common sense isn't very common.

[ducman77]

That would be great!!! We could get the public land back to the way it was in the late 80's

So are you for or against hunter harassment by crappy wardens?

You should already know I am PRO Law Enforcement.

[Seymore]

Find out the wardens day off and schedule court date and get it changed until it falls on his day off then when he shows up settle your fine with the judge ahead of time. And if he doesn't show you get the charge dismissed.

We are always reminded common sense isn't very common.

How do you go about doing that? Call the office up and say, "Hey, when does crappy warden Joe Blow have off". Don't think they are going to tell you. I also think they schedule court so that the officer has all his tickets heard on the same day. Don't know that for a fact but it would make sense so that the officer is not constantly running back to the court house for one hearing. But then again what do I know.

[Bullet]

Find out the wardens day off and schedule court date and get it changed until it falls on his day off then when he shows up settle your fine with the judge ahead of time. And if he doesn't show you get the charge dismissed.

We are always reminded common sense isn't very common.

Yea good idea. The court doesnt ever notify the officer when his trial dates are, ever Oh yea and the violator gets to run the show and set the court dates. Must be nice where you live.

Your last statement must refer to yourself, common sense isnt very common

[ducman77]

Find out the wardens day off and schedule court date and get it changed until it falls on his day off then when he shows up settle your fine with the judge ahead of time. And if he doesn't show you get the charge dismissed.

We are always reminded common sense isn't very common.

That could be the dumbest thing I have ever seen on here. I know for a fact Justice Court will contact the Officer before the trial date.

[mudsucker]

Find out the wardens day off and schedule court date and get it changed until it falls on his day off then when he shows up settle your fine with the judge ahead of time. And if he doesn't show you get the charge dismissed.

We are always reminded common sense isn't very common.

You, Sir, are my new hero!

[Quack Master]

I may be mistaken, but im pretty sure that your vehicle is considered "an extention of your home", so technically.....

If you leave them somewhere other than your home, or at the home of someone you are giving them to, they must be tagged. See 50cfr20.

So don't leave them in your truck, at the camp, in the blind or give all the limits to your bud after the hunt unless you tag them.

Keep them separate in the field, not one on strap, not one guy with them all on his atv, etc.

A simple rule to follow and not hard either. 50CFR20 is there for everyone to read. A Highway Patrolman told me a long time ago that ignorance of the law is no excuse. Good advice to live by.

[4dawgma]

That would be great!!! We could get the public land back to the way it was in the late 80's

So are you for or against hunter harassment by crappy wardens?

I think he's just for jammin to Milli Vanilli on the way to the blind

[Wingman]

Blame it on the rain.