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Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:33 am
by southdeltan
teul2 wrote:
southdeltan wrote: I think you are reading WAY to much into my statement. I've never really thought that deeply about it. But since you ask, 2 terms per post (state, fed, local, what ever) sounds about right to me.

Sorry, it wasn't aimed just at you specifically, you were just the last person I saw say that, lol.

If they do 2 terms here, 2 terms there, 2 terms over there, before you know it a politician will still end up making a career out of it.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:41 am
by Smoke68
southdeltan wrote:
teul2 wrote:
southdeltan wrote: I think you are reading WAY to much into my statement. I've never really thought that deeply about it. But since you ask, 2 terms per post (state, fed, local, what ever) sounds about right to me.

Sorry, it wasn't aimed just at you specifically, you were just the last person I saw say that, lol.

If they do 2 terms here, 2 terms there, 2 terms over there, before you know it a politician will still end up making a career out of it.
Most local and state politicians are not full time. My definition of a career politician is someone who hasn't done anything else except politics for most of their working lives. I have no problem with a state politician having a couple of terms while working fulltime, then heading to D.C. for a couple of terms.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-stat ... tures.aspx

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:19 pm
by Bonehead
southdeltan wrote:
teul2 wrote: And my deep seeded belief in term limits is going to play in todays vote for me.
I see a lot of people saying this, and typically by term limits people mean 2 terms in a post. McDaniel has served 1.5 terms (6 years) in the MS Senate. If he wins and runs two terms in the US that'd be 18 years. I guess he's going to retire from politics at that point, but if he doesn't - will the total time in office (all posts he would serve) not matter if he's moving around. Say he runs for the House after 2 terms in the Senate, or for Governor. Would he still be considered a vote-worthy non career politician at that point? I'm just curious. How long is too long? 42 apparently is too long for some people, but 36 was ok.

I thought I was for term limits, but the founders created a House and Senate (Great Compromise of 1787) to equalize power between small and large (based on population) states. The Senate gives smaller state more influence. Love it or hate it, seniority increases the power. We've benefited greatly from only having 5 senators over the past 67 years.
36 was too damn many too. There was just nobody else viable to choose. McDaniel's presence in the race has brought to light the questions of Thad's ability to serve the whole term and the MS establishment's plan to slip in who they want into that seat upon Thad's retirement.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:19 pm
by RebelYelp
both candidates have their plusses and minuses, my biggest fear is simple:

A. that this primary as caused such deep seeded anger in both sides that the loser will not support the winner in the general
.

B. that the mud slinging, money spent, etc. in the primary gives the democratic candidate a leg up.

Neither is good, and could in turn give us a democrat in this senate seat. My point, regardless of how tonight shakes out, the winner deserves our full support.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:50 pm
by davidees
RebelYelp wrote:both candidates have their plusses and minuses, my biggest fear is simple:

A. that this primary as caused such deep seeded anger in both sides that the loser will not support the winner in the general
.

B. that the mud slinging, money spent, etc. in the primary gives the democratic candidate a leg up.

Neither is good, and could in turn give us a democrat in this senate seat. My point, regardless of how tonight shakes out, the winner deserves our full support.
I agree

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:13 pm
by dukhntn
Clarion Ledger reporting Thad won reelection.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:16 pm
by REBEL DUCK
Looks like ole Thad pulled it off and I see people mad because te democrats supported Thad. Can you blame em if all you hear is cut government and you live off government who you gonna vote for?

I was about as split as I ever been. Just hope ever one supports the winner

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:23 pm
by davidees
REBEL DUCK wrote:Looks like ole Thad pulled it off and I see people mad because te democrats supported Thad. Can you blame em if all you hear is cut government and you live off government who you gonna vote for?

I was about as split as I ever been. Just hope ever one supports the winner
.
I will, but only because I will never cast a vote for a democrat for as long as I live.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:30 pm
by rjohnson
Well crap, guess the status quo carries on. Now we have to make sure we don't lose that Senate seat. Question on the Dems that voted in the primary, they can now vote either party in the general election correct?

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:53 pm
by davidees
rjohnson wrote:Well crap, guess the status quo carries on. Now we have to make sure we don't lose that Senate seat. Question on the Dems that voted in the primary, they can now vote either party in the general election correct?
They're not supposed to, but there's nothing to stop them.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:15 am
by eSJay
Sitting in the seat in front of Greg Harper on the way to DC.
He seems to have a little spring in his step this morning.
Super nice guy!

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:28 am
by jwayne
[quote="RebelYelp"]both candidates have their plusses and minuses, my biggest fear is simple:

A. that this primary as caused such deep seeded anger in both sides that the loser will not support the winner in the general
.

B. that the mud slinging, money spent, etc. in the primary gives the democratic candidate a leg up.

Neither is good, and could in turn give us a democrat in this senate seat. My point, regardless of how tonight shakes out, the winner deserves our full support.[/quote]


You are correct sir....and no I will not vote for Thad after the crap they pulled

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:35 am
by edub20
I would have still supported McDaniel in the event that he won... But then again I'm not a "I'm taking my ball and going home" type.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:06 am
by JDgator
This affair should serve as a serious warning to our elected officials that they tea party isn't going anywhere. And unless they want to face competitive primary elections at home, they'd better stick to their conservative roots. I don't expect Thad to do anything different but ambitious younger politicians should get the message.

Re: Mississippi is ready for some change

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:15 am
by fireplug
JDgator wrote:This affair should serve as a serious warning to our elected officials that they tea party isn't going anywhere. And unless they want to face competitive primary elections at home, they'd better stick to their conservative roots. I don't expect Thad to do anything different but ambitious younger politicians should get the message.
They won't. They paid no attention to Cantor getting kicked out, Tparty lost Ms and Ok primary races. I beginning to think any candidate that
accepts the "tea party candidate" label is pretty much going to get bombarded by the media and destroyed by the establishment. Our country is
lost and nothing short of Jesus' return is going to change things now. I'm not mad that Thad won, because it's God's will. I'm disappointed in the
tactics that were used to get the win, and I will be much more disappointed when Harper is appointed in a couple years instead of the Governor calling
a special election to fill the seat. Oh well. Just pray for them all. People on here have said it themselves, doesn't matter which one of them goes
to Washington because neither of them will make a difference.