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eSJay wrote:happy monday.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... no-defense

I was thinkiing the same thing. Then I read this article in the Sporting News and am convinced. Bama loses game. Dynasty over.

webbmaster wrote:

eSJay wrote:happy monday.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-footba ... no-defense

I was thinkiing the same thing. Then I read this article in the Sporting News and am convinced. Bama loses game. Dynasty over.

gotta admit.........it was a god run.

actually, the 2nd article on the link is why i posted. that was some funny chit, i don't care who you are.

webbie - can you bring back your'e buddy SCOTT J from the shrimp boat? you were a little more effective with him as your sidekick or maybe the game has surpassed you as well.

I gotta tell you, I wouldnt be where I am today without a supporting cast. Its extremely difficult to keep this place going without scott j and big dumpo.

mfalkner wrote:Bama showed a lot of grit and poise, playing their guts out in the 4th with fans bailing out. Two good teams slug it out, Rebs ended up on top. Heckuva game, doubt either coach wants a rematch any time soon.

I think if Henry had had fresh legs in the 4th quarter, the Rebs would have been in trouble.

So you wanna compare fresh legs to a defense that had been on the field most the night. Put a fresh Defensive line in he does not do anymore then he did the first 3 quarters.

yourmanwm75 wrote:

mfalkner wrote:Bama showed a lot of grit and poise, playing their guts out in the 4th with fans bailing out. Two good teams slug it out, Rebs ended up on top. Heckuva game, doubt either coach wants a rematch any time soon.

I think if Henry had had fresh legs in the 4th quarter, the Rebs would have been in trouble.

So you wanna compare fresh legs to a defense that had been on the field most the night. Put a fresh Defensive line in he does not do anymore then he did the first 3 quarters.

Nope, not comparing that at all. Just trying to tip a hat to what I saw as a gutsy performance by a losing team trying to pull it out. Would have been easy to quit when the fan base bailed out, but they didn't. Obviously our defense was totally out of gas as well.

If the only thing they have on Tunsil is the loaner car then it should be 4 games max. I guess the issue is when they actually release the findings, guess they plan on sitting him until they hear. It is ridiculous that they are taking so long announce anything. As far as Bama being on the down slide I think it has more to do with other teams catching up because of more diversity in college football. With the improvements in technology, social media, and these guys going to tons of camps together it has allowed things to happen like all these guys coming to Ole Miss together. If those guys were not able to all stay in constant contact and went to all the camps together I don't think they ever all wind up in Oxford. They were getting Nkemdiche and Connor no matter what but all those other guys came because of the relationships built with Nkemdechie. Just the landscape of college football now. Much harder for one team to really pull away from the pack. It also helps that all these schools are benefiting from all the money coming in from TV contracts and allow them to upgrade their facilities on par with your traditional power houses. Just think of how much Oregon has benefited from Phil Knight and his money.

The NCAA has lost all credibility and the Tunsil situation shows it!! The NCAA discovered both Tunsil and C.J. Hampton kept Cannon motor loaner cars longer than they should have. C.J. had his for less time than Tunsli thus the 2 games and Tunsil will get 4 games. We all claim sources close to the program and I cant say this is 100% but I was told about these things before the first game and everything I was told has proven 100% accurate. Also was told the problem at Ole Miss is we don't have a Chancellor to stand up to this and there are no current Ole Miss guys on the compliance group at the school and one is trying hard to get a job with the NCAA.

My issue is the NCAA would have more credibility coming out with the info and laying down the punishment. They are letting schools decide their own punishment and then (as with Scam Newton) if the school does nothing, no punishment is announced. I predict Tunsil plays after the fourth game and the NCAA never discloses anything about the situation.

The NCAA has lost all credibility and the Tunsil situation shows it!! The NCAA discovered both Tunsil and C.J. Hampton kept Cannon motor loaner cars longer than they should have. C.J. had his for less time than Tunsli thus the 2 games and Tunsil will get 4 games. We all claim sources close to the program and I cant say this is 100% but I was told about these things before the first game and everything I was told has proven 100% accurate. Also was told the problem at Ole Miss is we don't have a Chancellor to stand up to this and there are no current Ole Miss guys on the compliance group at the school and one is trying hard to get a job with the NCAA.

My issue is the NCAA would have more credibility coming out with the info and laying down the punishment. They are letting schools decide their own punishment and then (as with Scam Newton) if the school does nothing, no punishment is announced. I predict Tunsil plays after the fourth game and the NCAA never discloses anything about the situation.

P.S. Webbie you was correct about one thing. I'll bet Batemen was still feeling pain on Sunday. He got knocked the f out.

One other thing - Bama is 84-11 in the last 7 seasons before this year. People are saying they are on a downward trend after losing one game. Well hell, with that record over 7 years it is hard to go up!!! I sure hope in 2020 Bama beats Ole Miss 2 years in a row and we have had the above record and National Championships Bama has won during this time. I will laugh and say yep we are on the way down.

NUTMEG wrote:The NCAA has lost all credibility and the Tunsil situation shows it!! The NCAA discovered both Tunsil and C.J. Hampton kept Cannon motor loaner cars longer than they should have. C.J. had his for less time than Tunsli thus the 2 games and Tunsil will get 4 games. We all claim sources close to the program and I cant say this is 100% but I was told about these things before the first game and everything I was told has proven 100% accurate. Also was told the problem at Ole Miss is we don't have a Chancellor to stand up to this and there are no current Ole Miss guys on the compliance group at the school and one is trying hard to get a job with the NCAA.

My issue is the NCAA would have more credibility coming out with the info and laying down the punishment. They are letting schools decide their own punishment and then (as with Scam Newton) if the school does nothing, no punishment is announced. I predict Tunsil plays after the fourth game and the NCAA never discloses anything about the situation.

You are spot on with this statement. NCAA is a joke.

NUTMEG wrote:One other thing - Bama is 84-11 in the last 7 seasons before this year. People are saying they are on a downward trend after losing one game. Well hell, with that record over 7 years it is hard to go up!!! I sure hope in 2020 Bama beats Ole Miss 2 years in a row and we have had the above record and National Championships Bama has won during this time. I will laugh and say yep we are on the way down.

Yep, when Bama lost to Ole Miss last year everybody said they were done and Malzhan and Freeze had passed him by but who made it to the playoff. Same thing after Ohio State game everybody says Bama is done and Sabans defense can't hold up. Well overall I thought the defense did a heck of a job with the situations they were put in. Bama is young and inexperienced on offense and it shows. I am guessing they will be better by the end of the year but pretty sure they will lose one more game. Ole Miss will be in the same boat next year when the NFL rapes their under classmen. It's just like LSU you can't lose that many players to the NFL and not have some rebuilding to do and hit some bumps in the road.

webbmaster wrote:Fairly certain i can get 10 pages out of this thread.

mshunter77 wrote:

NUTMEG wrote:One other thing - Bama is 84-11 in the last 7 seasons before this year. People are saying they are on a downward trend after losing one game. Well hell, with that record over 7 years it is hard to go up!!! I sure hope in 2020 Bama beats Ole Miss 2 years in a row and we have had the above record and National Championships Bama has won during this time. I will laugh and say yep we are on the way down.

Yep, when Bama lost to Ole Miss last year everybody said they were done and Malzhan and Freeze had passed him by but who made it to the playoff. Same thing after Ohio State game everybody says Bama is done and Sabans defense can't hold up. Well overall I thought the defense did a heck of a job with the situations they were put in. Bama is young and inexperienced on offense and it shows. I am guessing they will be better by the end of the year but pretty sure they will lose one more game. Ole Miss will be in the same boat next year when the NFL rapes their under classmen. It's just like LSU you can't lose that many players to the NFL and not have some rebuilding to do and hit some bumps in the road.

The true test of Freeze and sustainability will be next season. LSU, Bama and Florida have had to deal with losing junior and redshirt sophs to the draft more than any other schools in the last 10 years. LSU appears to finally be digging out of the hole. Bama was able to maintain and Florida was gutted.

OM stands to lose at least four, maybe more, of their best players this year to the draft early. Heck, if Kelly keeps it up, since this is a weak QB class, I could see him leaving early too.

One thing that is apparent, Freeze is still recruiting well though.

Ole Miss will lose some key players this year but at the same time have several coming back. Freeze has done a great job recruiting and should land a top 5 class this year. I don't think Kelly will be able to leave this year (well I guess if Ole Miss makes the playoff he could) but with Shea Patterson coming in Ole Miss should be set for several years at QB.

As for Bama I look for them to lose at least one more game this year and maybe even 2 but when a down year means going 9-3 or 10-2 thats pretty good. Competition in the SEC will not allow any team to go 12-0 or 11-1 many years in a row.

Deltamud77 wrote:

mshunter77 wrote:

NUTMEG wrote:One other thing - Bama is 84-11 in the last 7 seasons before this year. People are saying they are on a downward trend after losing one game. Well hell, with that record over 7 years it is hard to go up!!! I sure hope in 2020 Bama beats Ole Miss 2 years in a row and we have had the above record and National Championships Bama has won during this time. I will laugh and say yep we are on the way down.

Yep, when Bama lost to Ole Miss last year everybody said they were done and Malzhan and Freeze had passed him by but who made it to the playoff. Same thing after Ohio State game everybody says Bama is done and Sabans defense can't hold up. Well overall I thought the defense did a heck of a job with the situations they were put in. Bama is young and inexperienced on offense and it shows. I am guessing they will be better by the end of the year but pretty sure they will lose one more game. Ole Miss will be in the same boat next year when the NFL rapes their under classmen. It's just like LSU you can't lose that many players to the NFL and not have some rebuilding to do and hit some bumps in the road.

The true test of Freeze and sustainability will be next season. LSU, Bama and Florida have had to deal with losing junior and redshirt sophs to the draft more than any other schools in the last 10 years. LSU appears to finally be digging out of the hole. Bama was able to maintain and Florida was gutted.

OM stands to lose at least four, maybe more, of their best players this year to the draft early. Heck, if Kelly keeps it up, since this is a weak QB class, I could see him leaving early too.

One thing that is apparent, Freeze is still recruiting well though.

Yeah ole miss will take a big hit

Tunsil
Both Nkemdechie
Treadwell
Conner
CJ Johnson
Possibly Kelly
Maybe Engram

That's just what I know of not sure who else