Freeze - Best Recruiter In Nation

[DeltaCotton12]

We can agree to disagree. Does he use key people to play important roles for his kingdom, no question he does. Tebow being the most popular of the bunch. I did not mean to pull the conversation this way nor did I intend to direct anything at anyone. I apologize if it appeared that way.

Freeze could be the next Alabama Bear at Ole Miss and win championship after Championship but he has not been in the game long enough for the jury to be out to claim him as "best recruiter in the nation". Many things lined up for him (big brother coming to OM) for him to pick up some great players. OM built great momentum last year and it has continued into the recruiting. I look forward to the battles of the Golden Egg as bother teams seem to be gaining or maintaining momentom. Watching a 3-7 om team play a 4-8 MS State does not have the same bite as say a 7-4 or 8-3 team play each other.

OM won this battle, the war comes every November. Both teams will prepare their troops for battle.

[stitch]

The more I look at the situation, the more I listen to Hugh Freeze talk........I believe Hugh freeze is EVERYTHING he says he is......originally thought he was a hypocrite, my appologies to the man and the Rebel fan base for saying such. The more I evaluate what he says, I firmly believe every word he says........I honestly mean that!

On the other hand, I think he is oblivious to all the "stuff" happening around him......so was he brought in to be a puppet for the "old regeme" and has the admistration of athletics really changed?.........just something to discuss / think about. I never though about it until a Rebel friend of mine brought it up.......

Again, I honestly and sincerely believe / come ot the conclusion that Hugh is everything he says he is......

[SNOT]

Giving thanks to God for your own good fortune is not the same thing as saying that God favors you over others. I don't think Hugh Freeze ever said or intended to say that God favors Ole Miss over any other school, or him over any other coach. That is ridiculous.

Some of you are grasping at straws in order to criticize Hugh Freeze. No person is perfect. And Freeze probably already has and will continue to do things for which he can be legitimately criticized. But, IMO, this ain't one of them. We all fall short in the eyes of God.

There is an irrational segment of the MSU fanbase whose meme seems to be "Hugh Freeze is a hypocrite", because he often publicly invokes the name of God and gives thanks to God for his blessings. And anything this group can conjure up or find that flys in the face of what a true Christian would do in all circumstances is used by them to attack him.
We've all seen and witnessed a similar situation in the criticism of Tim Tebow.

There are some sick puppies out there.

Yep....saw this tweet from some doc in Tupelo....tried to copy and paste but couldn't....

His name is Samuel Keith Box - @drskbox on twitter----sent to @CoachHughFreeze
"You better check yourself. Ultimately, you will answer to God for your lies, not those of us who know you cheated."

[camlock]

The more I look at the situation, the more I listen to Hugh Freeze talk........I believe Hugh freeze is EVERYTHING he says he is......originally thought he was a hypocrite, my appologies to the man and the Rebel fan base for saying such. The more I evaluate what he says, I firmly believe every word he says........I honestly mean that!

On the other hand, I think he is oblivious to all the "stuff" happening around him......so was he brought in to be a puppet for the "old regeme" and has the admistration of athletics really changed?.........just something to discuss / think about. I never though about it until a Rebel friend of mine brought it up.......

Again, I honestly and sincerely believe / come ot the conclusion that Hugh is everything he says he is......

Yes the athletic administration has changed...Ross Bjork is polar opposite of any type athletic leadership I've seen in my days as an Ole Miss fan. Was Freeze brought in as a prodigal of the good ole boy regime, maybe so at the time, but since the changes at Ole Miss athletic operations are vast.

I also firmly believe Freeze is genuine in his personality and I think he knows a whole lot more about the big picture going on in and around his program than your theorizing. That is one of the reasons I am excited about his potential as our coach. His accomplishments don't happen to a puppet.

And for the rest, to me Freeze comments were obvious to say he recognized Gods favor in his life as it pertains to success on and off the field. It is absolutely in line with everything else the man says and does and in line with what we all as Christians are taught to have faith in Gods work in our lives. I find it absurd to twist that into some idea of ignorantly proclaiming God favors the Ole Miss football program over other football programs

[Deltamud77]

I am a Christian and I will say that I find it a little unsettling when coaches use God as the recruiting tool of choice (ala Chizik and Freeze). I think it is perfectly permissible to be honest that faith plays an important role in your life. I think it is good when coaches provide the opportunity for the team to go to church together, to have Bible studies, to be in FCA, etc. However, it is hypocritical to use the God talk in front of mama and then surround the recruits with white womenz when they get on campus. I know Chizik did it and I have heard that Freeze does the same.

This tactic ultimately blew up in Chizik's face and made him look foolish (in insinuating that God was pulling the strings for Auburn).

I hope that Freeze is what he is making himself out to be...but I will remain skeptical until I have more time to evaluate the man and his program and the actions of the players in that program.

[DoubleBandMS]

I am a Christian and I will say that I find it a little unsettling when coaches use God as the recruiting tool of choice (ala Chizik and Freeze). I think it is perfectly permissible to be honest that faith plays an important role in your life. I think it is good when coaches provide the opportunity for the team to go to church together, to have Bible studies, to be in FCA, etc. However, it is hypocritical to use the God talk in front of mama and then surround the recruits with white womenz when they get on campus. I know Chizik did it and I have heard that Freeze does the same.

This tactic ultimately blew up in Chizik's face and made him look foolish (in insinuating that God was pulling the strings for Auburn).

I hope that Freeze is what he is making himself out to be...but I will remain skeptical until I have more time to evaluate the man and his program and the actions of the players in that program.

Please explain how Freeze surrounds recruits with women on campus. Thanks. These are 18 year old boys. Are you serious? Please tell me you are smarter than this. You obviously have some top secret info on what Freeze is doing. Just curious where you guys went to college since you have no interest in women and just hung out with other dudes.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

Uhhhh, Ole Miss has a student body full of beautiful women, including white, black, asian, etc. If the recruits sign with Ole Miss and thereafter become students at Ole Miss, they will be "surrounded by white womenz" and other women as well on campus, in classes, on the Square, etc.

When the recruits come to visit Ole Miss, just as any other prospective student, they have an opportunity to visit the Oxford Square, which on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights is packed with Ole Miss students, including lots of beautiful "white womenz" and other beautiful women. The Square has several bars popular with the students, including the Library, City Grocery, Proud Larry's, etc etc.

Some of you, perhaps due to a generational gap, or because you don't get out much, are way behind the times. The Library, for instance, is nothing like anything I have ever seen. It is such a popular place for students to hang out and be seen, that this place charges $10 cover at the door and there is no live band, only a dj. For folks my age, try to imagine the Warehouse and Gin crowds combined, and then you will start to get close to understanding the large party that is going on there every Friday and Saturday night. And for those paying attention, there are both white and black students there together having fun. It's not a special event. It's not contrived. This is the norm.

So, when our recruits come to visit, and they check out the scene on the Square, and the Grove on game days, many are blown away by the experience. What are we supposed to do? Hide our fine women from the recruits?

College football recruits are not only football players, they are also human. They are drawn to the same type of things other students are drawn by --- an opportunity to get a good education AND have some fun. All we have to do is get the recruits to visit. Ole Miss and Oxford sells itself.

[Deltamud77]

You boys need to lighten up. Listen, if you are gonna run with the big boys, be ready to take the criticism that comes with it...baseless or not. Getting your panties in a wad is like shooting fish in a barrel right now.

All college programs assign female tour guides to games and around campus during the season when they cannot be assigned to players that are playing the game.

I am only saying that seems, IMO, to run contrary to the Christian rhetoric we see with Freeze. I say rhetoric because I have been burned in the past by coaches that claim to be Christians that ultimately act very different, circumstance dependent...Croom, Bobby Bowden and Chizik come immediately to mind.

It is one thing to say it, it is another to live it. Anyone who claims they know for a fact that Freeze is in fact different from the aforementioned men is either God himself or lying.

[Po Monkey Lounger]

No, the insinuation of many seems to be that if a white woman is seen socializing with , hugging on, etc, any of our black recruits, that they must be some type of paid hostess, whore, or whatever other derogatory term one wants to conjure. That type of thought is not only racist , but reflects a disconnect by those throwing out the slander. It's a new day at Ole Miss. Times have changed. Some of you need to get out more.

I don't have my panties in a wad. The only ones who do seem to be the fans of schools who lost out on top recruits to Ole Miss. And the ignorance displayed by many of them when trying to rationalize what just happened is staggering.

Oh well. I know it's new and will take some getting used to. I won't be responding to any more of these type comments. I'll just be laughing at the ignorance of the posters making the comments.

[DoubleBandMS]

Double post sorry. Have fun.

[DoubleBandMS]

So what you're saying is all colleges assign women to "guide recruits" and that's not Christian, so you can make a judgement as to the salvation of every college in America. Makes sense. But it's ok for a man to throw out "baseless accusations" as you say. I see. I'm light, I think what you are saying is hilarious and pathetic.

You boys need to lighten up. Listen, if you are gonna run with the big boys, be ready to take the criticism that comes with it...baseless or not. Getting your panties in a wad is like shooting fish in a barrel right now.

All college programs assign female tour guides to games and around campus during the season when they cannot be assigned to players that are playing the game.

I am only saying that seems, IMO, to run contrary to the Christian rhetoric we see with Freeze. I say rhetoric because I have been burned in the past by coaches that claim to be Christians that ultimately act very different, circumstance dependent...Croom, Bobby Bowden and Chizik come immediately to mind.

It is one thing to say it, it is another to live it. Anyone who claims they know for a fact that Freeze is in fact different from the aforementioned men is either God himself or lying.

[webbmaster]

Laid, paid and saved.

[camlock]

I am a Christian and I will say that I find it a little unsettling when coaches use God as the recruiting tool of choice (ala Chizik and Freeze). I think it is perfectly permissible to be honest that faith plays an important role in your life. I think it is good when coaches provide the opportunity for the team to go to church together, to have Bible studies, to be in FCA, etc. However, it is hypocritical to use the God talk in front of mama and then surround the recruits with white womenz when they get on campus. I know Chizik did it and I have heard that Freeze does the same.

This tactic ultimately blew up in Chizik's face and made him look foolish (in insinuating that God was pulling the strings for Auburn).

I hope that Freeze is what he is making himself out to be...but I will remain skeptical until I have more time to evaluate the man and his program and the actions of the players in that program.

I get what you mean, and to respond I don't thin Freeze pushes his Christianity on his job. He is just open about what he believes and forthright about his faith in all areas of his lives, however from what I've seen he's a football coach and he preaches football to his players, coaches, et al. I've never seen anything where Freeze tried to sale himself as an evangelist coach.

Also, as far as the recruiting visits and the college life; these guys are rock stars. That is the life on every SEC campus for these guys and when they go out to mingle with other students and see what the life is about they are treated as such, by everybody. It's part of the deal, and believing that Freze is a man of faith I don't believe he sets anything up inappropriate but their isn't much he cam do about girls and others drooling over what could be the next big man on campus or NFL millionaire. And to play devils advocate, how many players you think would come to Ole Miss if Freeze told them that because he was a Christian that they had to act as though a recruiting trip was a church camp weekend and stay away from town where they might be flirted with or enticed to dance and party with students?

I'm sure when Nkemdiche and Kamara were treated to a rap concert in Baton Rouge that no girls where allowed to fratenize with them and the rapper was told to keep it clean on stage, as they were kids and all ya know.