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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby mshunter77 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:29 pm

SNOT wrote:What is going on with State's class all of a sudden? Not trying to start crap - just wondering....Mix de-commited a couple days ago then Corey Smith de-commited today.....
Smith was always gone if Ohio State offered, good chance Mix comes back but Chris Jones is up in the air and I would lean towards Ole Miss with him.
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Postby camlock » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:26 am

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SNOT wrote:What is going on with State's class all of a sudden? Not trying to start crap - just wondering....Mix de-commited a couple days ago then Corey Smith de-commited today.....
Smith was always gone if Ohio State offered, good chance Mix comes back but Chris Jones is up in the air and I would lean towards Ole Miss with him.
Does Mix have an offer from Ole Miss? I have never seen his name much on the Ole Miss recruiting sites...I would think Ole Miss would offer him, if for no other reason for in-state relationships.
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

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SNOT wrote:What is going on with State's class all of a sudden? Not trying to start crap - just wondering....Mix de-commited a couple days ago then Corey Smith de-commited today.....
Smith was always gone if Ohio State offered, good chance Mix comes back but Chris Jones is up in the air and I would lean towards Ole Miss with him.
Does Mix have an offer from Ole Miss? I have never seen his name much on the Ole Miss recruiting sites...I would think Ole Miss would offer him, if for no other reason for in-state relationships.
I meant Jones would sign with Ole Miss not Mix. Don't think Mix has an offer from them. Maybe Freeze realizes that most SP recruits don't last long or wind up being anything close to what they are supposed to be. I know they are after Conner but he is suposedly a can't miss recruit. Also I think state fans are hurting theirselves with Chris Jones with all of the rumors about money being offered, that could turn a recruit on you quick, just as CJ Johnson.
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby SNOT » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 am

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I meant Jones would sign with Ole Miss not Mix. Don't think Mix has an offer from them. Maybe Freeze realizes that most SP recruits don't last long or wind up being anything close to what they are supposed to be. I know they are after Conner but he is suposedly a can't miss recruit. Also I think state fans are hurting theirselves with Chris Jones with all of the rumors about money being offered, that could turn a recruit on you quick, just as CJ Johnson.[/quote]



I'd imagine that Gene Swindoll guy freaked Jones out with all that crazy/weird stuff he posted yesterday. That's one odd dude.
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Postby REBEL DUCK » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:03 pm

We can count sp players to make nfl vs your high school if you want.
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REBEL DUCK wrote:We can count sp players to make nfl vs your high school if you want.
I will make that easy for you 0 from my school, but we also never had a single big time recruit either so therefore no failures. Seriously though SP has multiple SEC caliber recruits every year and how many actually make it more than two years or actually wind up being starters. It actually is probably a small percentage, this is not a knock on Ole Miss as many of these recruits have gone to other schools. I was actually implying that Freeze is smart for looking at this. Who was the last big SP recruit to actually contribute in college for 3 or 4 years. Last one I can think of is Pegues(sp?), but I could be missing some one.
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Postby REBEL DUCK » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:22 pm

I went to a small academy myself so that's misleading. The jerry brothers would be the last I can think of but they are linemen and don't get much attention. The only ones people talk about from sp are the thugs but that's what rumors and drama thrive on is negativity.
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Postby mshunter77 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:42 pm

Forgot about the Jerry brothers, they both had very good careers at Ole Miss.
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby mshunter77 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:45 pm

SNOT wrote: I'd imagine that Gene Swindoll guy freaked Jones out with all that crazy/weird stuff he posted yesterday. That's one odd dude.
I can't even imagine half the crap these kids go through this age in recruiting. At some point there are probably rumors about all of them and they have people coming out of the wood work trying to convince them what school is best for them. It is no wonder we see all the crazy flip flopping back and forth. I really think they need an early signing period and that would solve a lot of the problems.
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby camlock » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:47 pm

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REBEL DUCK wrote:We can count sp players to make nfl vs your high school if you want.
I will make that easy for you 0 from my school, but we also never had a single big time recruit either so therefore no failures. Seriously though SP has multiple SEC caliber recruits every year and how many actually make it more than two years or actually wind up being starters. It actually is probably a small percentage, this is not a knock on Ole Miss as many of these recruits have gone to other schools. I was actually implying that Freeze is smart for looking at this. Who was the last big SP recruit to actually contribute in college for 3 or 4 years. Last one I can think of is Pegues(sp?), but I could be missing some one.
we played against Will Overstreet at MRA and we played against them two boys that went to Ole Miss from CA...Robertson and the center Justin something...just saying :wink:

and you are wrong about SP, there have been a couple notable ones that didn't pan out like Chris Strong and Chris Herring but a whole lot more have played and contributed in college 3 or 4 years...Ole Miss has a couple now returning 2 or 3 year players (Austin Douglas, Issac Gross, Nick Parker, Temario Strong) and Nick Brassell is coming back qualified for 2nd season and likely a 3rd, the Jerry brothers both spend full careers at college, Toward Sanford, Derek Pegues, DeShea Townsend, Eddie Strong, Jamarca Sanford, are just some names I know off top of my head...4 of those in NFL now and the others spend time there and I am the one probably missing some one...stereotype much Joe?
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby SNOT » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:49 pm

Jamarca Sanford started for a cople years at OM and now plays for the Vikings I think....but he wasn't a heralded recruit like Chris Strong, Chris Herring, Tig Barksdale, etc.

Isaac Gross seems like he could be one that actually lives up to his potential....started all year as a true freshman.
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Postby mshunter77 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:06 pm

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REBEL DUCK wrote:We can count sp players to make nfl vs your high school if you want.
I will make that easy for you 0 from my school, but we also never had a single big time recruit either so therefore no failures. Seriously though SP has multiple SEC caliber recruits every year and how many actually make it more than two years or actually wind up being starters. It actually is probably a small percentage, this is not a knock on Ole Miss as many of these recruits have gone to other schools. I was actually implying that Freeze is smart for looking at this. Who was the last big SP recruit to actually contribute in college for 3 or 4 years. Last one I can think of is Pegues(sp?), but I could be missing some one.
we played against Will Overstreet at MRA and we played against them two boys that went to Ole Miss from CA...Robertson and the center Justin something...just saying :wink:

and you are wrong about SP, there have been a couple notable ones that didn't pan out like Chris Strong and Chris Herring but a whole lot more have played and contributed in college 3 or 4 years...Ole Miss has a couple now returning 2 or 3 year players (Austin Douglas, Issac Gross, Nick Parker, Temario Strong) and Nick Brassell is coming back qualified for 2nd season and likely a 3rd, the Jerry brothers both spend full careers at college, Toward Sanford, Derek Pegues, DeShea Townsend, Eddie Strong, Jamarca Sanford, are just some names I know off top of my head...4 of those in NFL now and the others spend time there and I am the one probably missing some one...stereotype much Joe?
Also against Justin Wade that went to Ole Miss. Yes there have been some to make it but most of the guys you listed are from a while back. Gross and Brassel have a chance to break the stereo type and maybe show that they can once again put out players that actually stay around.
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Postby camlock » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:30 pm

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mshunter77 wrote: I will make that easy for you 0 from my school, but we also never had a single big time recruit either so therefore no failures. Seriously though SP has multiple SEC caliber recruits every year and how many actually make it more than two years or actually wind up being starters. It actually is probably a small percentage, this is not a knock on Ole Miss as many of these recruits have gone to other schools. I was actually implying that Freeze is smart for looking at this. Who was the last big SP recruit to actually contribute in college for 3 or 4 years. Last one I can think of is Pegues(sp?), but I could be missing some one.
we played against Will Overstreet at MRA and we played against them two boys that went to Ole Miss from CA...Robertson and the center Justin something...just saying :wink:

and you are wrong about SP, there have been a couple notable ones that didn't pan out like Chris Strong and Chris Herring but a whole lot more have played and contributed in college 3 or 4 years...Ole Miss has a couple now returning 2 or 3 year players (Austin Douglas, Issac Gross, Nick Parker, Temario Strong) and Nick Brassell is coming back qualified for 2nd season and likely a 3rd, the Jerry brothers both spend full careers at college, Toward Sanford, Derek Pegues, DeShea Townsend, Eddie Strong, Jamarca Sanford, are just some names I know off top of my head...4 of those in NFL now and the others spend time there and I am the one probably missing some one...stereotype much Joe?
Also against Justin Wade that went to Ole Miss. Yes there have been some to make it but most of the guys you listed are from a while back. Gross and Brassel have a chance to break the stereo type and maybe show that they can once again put out players that actually stay around.
no they aren't...you're wrong, admit it...just b/c a couple high profile ended up being drop outs doesn't mean every player from the school is...and easily can be argued that a whole lot more go to college and actually spend more time in college b/c of football than would have otherwise...
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby billyho » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:48 pm

I hope y'all are all correct about brassel but he's still got a rough road ahead of him academically before he ever gets to step on the football field.
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Re: ole miss recruting- chris jones

Postby Po Monkey Lounger » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:33 am

Seriously? With all the recruiting services, camps, high school coaches (Ole Miss fans) that play against him.......you really believe MSU alumni kept him hidden? Bwahhhhhhhhh. Nobody of his talent goes unnoticed unless you just don't have a clue what you are looking at or not pounding the pavement. Maybe a 1 star guy with size that develops after he gets on campus........but really? He was kept hidden?
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Scotty Lee addressed what I am about to post, but in response to Stitch, I got one part of the story I am hearing incorrect. The "camps" and "combines" , or whatever they are called, that exposed Jones to the outside world, were in the late fall --- the Under Armour All-Star game and another All-Star game --- not during the summer as I indicated. It was at this point that Jones' star ratings suddenly went through the roof, jumping from a middle of the pack 3 star to an elite 5 star. Usually, Gene and Rosebowl tend to over-rank MSU's commits within the Scout system. But, there Jones was, for pretty much the entire fall football season, sitting at a 3 star level.

Jones apparently only attended one summer camp this past summer --- MSU. And MSU did not offer until that camp in June. Jones' high school coach, according to what I have heard, discouraged him from attending any other summer camps, telling the kid that he would be better off by just staying at home and working out at the school as opposed to attending more camps. His high school coach is a former MSU player and now a supporter. The high school principal/AD at Houston high school (regardless of where he graduated) is an ardent MSU supporter ---(his facebook page apparently bears this out). Attempts to visit Jones at Houston high school this past fall by UM coaches and coaches at other schools were, for whatever reasons given, unsuccessful.

Was this all part of an MSU strategy to keep Jones "under wraps"? Or just coincidental? Who knows. At this point, it really matters not. Due to the all-star games after the season, and the social media, the word is out that this young man has a lot of potential to be special at the next level. And he is now talking to and visiting with other schools to check them out. He most likely will stay with MSU. But, if he does, then it will at least be with his eyes wide open as to what else is out there with respect to other schools.

I won't be sweating out the decision. From the Rebs' perspective, his interest in Ole Miss this late in the game was a pleasant surprise, and his signing with the Rebs would just be icing on the cake of what appears to be shaping up as a solid recruiting class for Freeze after his first full year as the Rebels' head coach. But, until the hay is in the barn, who knows what will ultimately happen. Like I said earlier, its been a hoot watching and reading about the reaction of many MSU fans to Jones' interest in Ole Miss after being committed to MSU since June. :wink:
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