Tagging Your Birds

[GREENHEAD]

it seems to me that the Feds and the State have 2 different oppinions on this matter: before i post the "feds" way of doing things i wanted to offer the following scenario and get answers as to what everyone actually does.

The scenario is as follows:

Party of four hunting: group of 30 mallards fly through and 7 ducks are taken ..... what is the procedure when picking up ducks??????

i think some of you are gonna be shocked at how ridiculous it is

[Wingman]

I say pick em up by the head but I'm sure some will argue picking them up by the feet is best.

[GREENHEAD]

funny ... i have not been on here in a while but arent you a Conservation Officer

i have been checked numerous times by the state and never once been asked about tags on a ducks leg

i want a few more responses before i give the "correct" version of hunting

[donia]

hunting without a dog, usually someone goes out, picks them up, comes back and doles them out to whomever shot them....but i bet you're gonna say they must be tagged at the time you initially come into contact with the departed bird, by the shooter of said bird.

[GREENHEAD]

close Donia

[DeltaCotton12]

every Hunter has a different colored Sharpie in his pocket. Each hunter paints the toenail of the duck with his corresponding color. Thus identifying who shot the duck. Sounds logical to me.

[novacaine]

Each individual picks up THEIR birds. Separate and identifiable.

[GREENHEAD]

Novacaine ... not quite there but>>>>>

in the future, you should:

ask immediately who shot what bird, return said bird or birds to identifying hunter who at that moment must pull out a tag that has his/her name
address and drivers license number and must right down the species and attach it to the bird before leaving hunting area.

if after returning to your camp, you give birds away, the tags must remain on said birds and said birds are not to be cleaned until they arrive at
the destination where they will be consumed. Said hunter is not allowed more thean 24 breast (12 ducks) on his/her person or at domain at any time.


MY OPPINION IS THAT THIS IS STUPID

State may not write you, but the Feds wrote up a buddy of mine for that exact thing!

[LODI QUACKER]

U have a lot of differnt situations and possible rules and violations in that last statement. Doesnt have anything to do with the shooting or retrieval of the birds. Just follow these simple rules and your golden.

Separate all birds in the field.
Keep birds in your possesion aT ALL TIMES.
If gifting, must be done with all corresponding times dats and hunter info.
Must leave identification of bird on bird until you get to your HOME or you clean ur birds to immediately eat them.
possesion limits apply at all times.
If transporting more than one daily limit, ie.. yesterdays limit you must have them proppetly tagged, but you must do that to leave those birds at any time anyway so thats not an issue.

Some of it is a pain bit they will write you if you dont comply.


What exactly happened and where are the feds working?

[Double R 2]

I place my ducks on a strap with my name inscribed. Now that the boys re old enough, they do likewise that way, if we swing by a restaurant, leave them hanging at camp? Or through a road block, pretty easy for the CO to tell who shot what. 50 CFR 20, though in part antiquated, is the law of the land.

[hillhunter03]

I ran into this one time but it was not to that extreme. Now I have all my info embroidered into my strap and haven't had any problems since.

[Northbigmuddy]

Hmmm...I better get my sharpie out and get legal. Everytime I think I'm legit I find out I'm still breaking the law. Guess I need to leave the snacks outta my blind bag and take a copy of the Mississippi code with me. Now that I think about it are snacks legal or is that considered "baiting"? Ridiculous....

[RiverDuck]

Novacaine ... not quite there but>>>>>

in the future, you should:

ask immediately who shot what bird, return said bird or birds to identifying hunter who at that moment must pull out a tag that has his/her name
address and drivers license number and must right down the species and attach it to the bird before leaving hunting area.

You dont have to tag birds in the field. Make sure they are seperate and identifiable...

Some of yall should ready this:

http://www.fws.gov/le/pdf/50_CFR_20.pdf

[no fly zone]

thats ridiculous. Im guessing your buddy was hunting in ms??

Ive never understood why there are possession limits and daily limits anyway. The only law that cant be left up to intepretation is 60/6 which means one person can hunt a max of 60 days and
kill 6 ducks per day within species limits. So the fed govt BY LAW allows any hunter who purchases a license to kill a maximum of 360 ducks in a calander year of "said" species in MS. This is what the
GOVT has decided is a fair and reasonable number. This means that 360 ducks can die by one persons gun barrel alone..99.9% of us cant say "I" killed 360 ducks stone dead every year. Why does it matter how many a hunter wants to kill on a given day or how many they possess as long as they have not met their 360 given to us by law??

I dont shoot over the limit and try to seperate and strap accordingly best I can because its the law. As the post goes a group of 4 were hunting so a max of 1440 birds can be taken by the 4 hunters in the party over the season and the guy gets a ticket for 7 ducks hitting the water not identifing. even though it contradicts my post i could understand coming out with more than limit and getting burned by a lawdawg, but wtf is duck hunting gonna come too when you have to be more concerned with magic markers, individual tags for every duk, embroidery, picking up YOUR ducks, identifing kill shots, etc DURING THE HUNT!

Sorry, going back to the woods now

[Anatidae]

It's amazing how many folks subscribe to party shooting and party limits. I have never been into that and likely never will be.

IMO Every hunter should be responsible for identifying the species before pulling the trigger, picking-out a bird in his own shooting lane (if hunting in a group), being accountable for shot selection based on KNOWN individual ability and equipment limitations, knowing when a bird has been hit, and if downed - make a thorough search, retrieve birds and dispatch cripples, unload your gun when you've reached YOUR daily limit and wait patiently as the other hunters attempt to fill theirs.

This business of one duck flying over 6 guns, everybody unloading on it and scratching it down with one errant pellet in the butt........and everybody high-fiving and saying "nice shot, nice shot' when the bird dumps into a rice paddy 15 levees over.....is Bull$#!+. Worse yet if you get it on video (barrel cam) and think it's 'cool'. Nobody knows who hit the duck, but all assume they did......one pellet. Then put'em in a pile until you do 35 more just like that, then divi'em up at the end of the hunt? Yeah, that would make me proud not to know whether or not I actually hit one of the 36.

Every day is different - take one day at a time. No one should be 'entitled' to anything they don't work for, accomplished by hard-won skills, experience-based education in the field, and an appreciation for responsible management of the resource for the continuation of our waterfowling heritage........just because they went hunting. 6/60 is no guarantee that anybody is going to kill their bag limit every day, and while many think (and claim) they can hunt 60 days non-stop - I doubt few can.

One thing I really don't understand is why anyone would mount a camera on their gun and film the shooter's face while hunting - that's a guaranteed channel switch right there, in our house. And what's so cool about videoing somebody else that's videoing?........or videoing the videographers flip-out screen............or videoing somebody that's videoing themself with a palmcorder while walking and talking.......or an angle shot of someone talking to another camera. Man, when I talk to someone, I like to make eye contact with THEM.......damn if I want someone talking to me that is looking somewhere else the whole time. People are so wrapped-up in themsleves these days, they don't even 'get-it'. It's a sickness.

It's not even about the ducks any more.......for some folks.